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Literally all of America's allies warned against breaking that deal, and yet he doesn't care. And you think he's the one thinking rationally in this situation?

The deal in itself is one thing (although I do belive it's a good thing forcing Iran to not develop nuclear weapons), the other is how this all looks. How is any country supposed to put their faith in America when they have a leader that doesn't give a fuck about anything?

He's ruining democracy in the West in a time where we're under more pressure than ever before. And hes ruining it for Iran's economy. It's like he want them to get hold on some nukes.

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Rohan wrote:
May 8th, 2018, 6:26 pm
No allies of us, including ourselves, gained anything from the deal that Obama presented to the world. Pulling out of this nonsensical deal is the right decision.
Is that why many European leaders oppose the US leaving the agreement? Stop watching Fox News and read something other than far-right propaganda for a change. I'm not sure Trump even knows what's in the JCPOA. The only reason Trump opposes it is because it's one of Obama's accomplishments. The IAEA has said that Iran was in compliance with the agreement, which meant that they complied it the commitment to stop enriching uranium for nuclear purposes and under the agreement it was also possible for the IAEA to regularly check on them and their inspectors in fact had received access to any sites they wanted to visit.

Pulling out of the agreement only means that the US is a bad faith actor on the international stage that does not honour its commitments under international conventions and agreements.

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CNN - Mueller's team questions Russian oligarch about payments to Cohen
Special counsel Robert Mueller's investigators have questioned a Russian oligarch about hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments his company's US affiliate made to President Donald Trump's personal attorney, Michael Cohen, after the election, according to a source familiar with the matter.

Viktor Vekselberg, chairman of asset manager Renova Group, is an oligarch close to Vladimir Putin, and last month the Trump administration placed him on a list of sanctioned Russians for activities including election interference. The purpose of the payments, which predate the sanctions, and the nature of the business relationship between Vekselberg and Cohen is unclear.

The scrutiny of the payments could add to the legal troubles for Cohen, whose home and office were raided last month as part of a criminal investigation by federal prosecutors in Manhattan. In court documents, the prosecutors said at least part of their inquiry stemmed from a referral from Mueller's office.

The questions asked of Vekselberg suggest that Mueller investigators have been examining some of Cohen's business relationships as part of the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. Vekselberg is one of two Russian oligarchs the FBI stopped earlier this year after their private jets landed in New York-area airports as part of Mueller's investigation.

Investigators also asked Vekselberg about donations the head of his US affiliate made to Trump's inaugural fund and campaign funds, sources said.

The attorney for Stormy Daniels -- the porn star who received $130,000 to keep quiet about an alleged affair she had with Trump a decade ago -- produced information Tuesday evening that appears to add further details to CNN's reporting. Michael Avenatti alleged that Cohen received half a million dollars from a company affiliated with Vekselberg in the months after the presidential election.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... -to-cohen/

CNN - AT&T confirms it paid Trump lawyer Michael Cohen's company

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/08/media/a ... index.html

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Saying earlier that getting out of the deal was a good decision by Trump doesn't mean one reads or worships Fox News. I, for one, hate the news, any kind of it whether it's Fox News or CNN. I think those who religiously believe everything that the media releases immensely are lost how politics works, especially Trump's regarding North Korea and the Middle East.

I think one should take the time to perform his or her own research to find the truth and believe me the truth is out there. Since it's Iran we're talking about, the deal was for Iran to stop with the nuclear games, but the deal was also for Iran to participate in the peace process within the Middle East. Instead, Iran not only continued to build the bomb they want to build, they also continued and still continues to arm Taliban, ISIS branches in Afghanistan. While Iran is playing this game in that region, they're also arming and funding Hamas and Hezbullah.

So, to sit in a deal that Iranian regime itself is not following and while our allies are completely ignoring this mess, I think it is a wise decision to pull out of the deal considering the fact that the U,S. is the big boy here. I get it, that it's all politics, but it is also essential to understand that the Mullah regime in Iran will always remain an enemy of not just their people, but the U.S. as well. I think that our allies will pull out, if not tomorrow, but slowly.

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Wall Street Journal - Mueller Asked Ford for Records After It Rejected Michael Cohen Consulting Overture
(WASHINGTON)— Michael Cohen, who has served as President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, made an overture to provide consulting services to Ford Motor Co. in January 2017, but was quickly rebuffed, people familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Cohen, touting his proximity to the president, contacted Ford’s office in Washington D.C.—an approach that Special Counsel Robert Mueller later learned about in the course of his investigation, the people said.

Mr. Mueller’s team has since requested information from Ford about the outreach, including emails and records, and has interviewed Ford’s head of government affairs, Ziad Ojakli, the people said.

The pitch was made in an informal phone call and the exchange was short. Mr. Ojakli rejected the offer and had no further conversations about it, the people said.

It is unclear when Mr. Mueller sought information about the overture from Mr. Cohen. Representatives for Mr. Cohen didn’t respond to a request for comment; Mr. Mueller’s spokesman declined to comment.

Mr. Cohen’s consulting work has drawn scrutiny from federal prosecutors.

He set up a company, Essential Consultants LLC, that he used to make a payment to the former adult-movie actress Stephanie Clifford—known as Stormy Daniels—in exchange for her silence about an alleged affair with President Donald Trump.

Last year, Mr. Mueller’s office sought information from the pharmaceutical company Novartis AG and the telecommunications firm AT& T Inc. dealing with payments they made to Essential Consultants in exchange for Mr. Cohen’s advice.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ford-rejec ... 1526079214

ABC News - Mueller probing donations with foreign connections to Trump inauguration: EXCLUSIVE
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has questioned several witnesses about millions of dollars in donations to President Donald Trump’s inauguration committee last year, including questions about donors with connections to Russia, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, sources with direct knowledge told ABC News.

Those interviewed included longtime Trump friend and confidant Thomas Barrack, who oversaw the fundraising effort, as well as individuals familiar with the massive inaugural fund, according to sources with direct knowledge.

Barrack, a real estate investor, has long been described as a Trump “whisperer” whose close friendship with the president landed him a prime appearance during the GOP convention the night Trump accepted his party’s nomination.
Intrater, an American relative and business associate of Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg, runs a U.S. company with deep ties to Vekselberg’s Russia-based global conglomerate, Renova Group. Renova was recently sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury Department.

Intrater serves as the CEO of Columbus Nova, an investment company based in New York. FEC records show Intrater made a $250,000 donation to the Trump inauguration committee in early January 2017.

Following the donation, he and Vekselberg attended Trump’s inauguration, according to published reports. Also in 2017, Intrater gave another $35,000 to Trump Victory, the joint fundraising committee for the Trump campaign and Republican party. Of that, $29,600 went to the Republican National Committee.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exclusi ... d=55054482

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