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There is. Score 50% in all of them and you're right in the middle. Supporting everything and nothing.

Of course it is a bit extreme as traditionalism as it stands is a bit anti-feminism. The more middle ground if you really wanna go there is liberal feminism. That's kind of the center.

Prove me that's a factual thing and then we can talk about it. Until then, this is all but an assumption.

No it doesn't work that way. How can you be neutral and still score 50% in all the categories of feminism?

Also, liberal feminism is/should not be the middle ground as the quiz is a test for feminism itself. If it was the middle ground then it would have simply been a test for traditionalism or what type of feminist you are (already assuming you are one in the first place).

The proof is in the overwhelming number of scripts and movies that come out of Hollywood featuring male protagonists. Besides, I was only using that to show the issues with the poll.

Of course not lol. But the idea that men and women can participate in all activities in equal manner is a bit far-fetched from the actual reality. There are just certain things that a specific gender is better at.

No one is denying the physiological differences between men and women and why such differences can favor one gender over the other in certain works of life. The problem is you were making an excuse for thousands of years of oppression and blaming it on "natural traits" and that does not hold up. I mentioned a few instances in my response.

In theory they don't do such things. In practice they do. It's never necessary to enforce thing nor does it make any sense because it is counter-productive in the long-term. It's like saying it's necessary to enforce democracy in middle-east. As long as something is enforced then it's not going to be part of a natural process of evolution. Soooooo sooner or later bad shit will happen. Enforcing quotas can create repercussions from men in the future. Enforcing quotas also betrays the very core beliefs of a free society. Like I said. Earn your job. Earn your position. Earn your money. Earn your shit. You shouldn't be given something for free because of your sex, race, etc. That leads to destabilization.

In practice they do not, except if you're referring to the few you've met and using that to generalize an entire group in which case that's on you. Now at this point I'm going to be careful because I don't know whether you truly believe the things you say or are simply trying to be argumentative. It seems to me that you're suggesting that oppressed people should just accept their position (or not) and wait patiently for those in authority to change their mind? How many times in history has such a passive approach to change ever worked? Also "Soooooo sooner or later bad shit will happen. Enforcing quotas can create repercussions from men in the future." Is this even a real argument? You are also talking about "earn your job" as if the people who will benefit are under-qualified as compared to their counterparts when they only want the opportunity to do the job.

And if the writing justifies it? What's wrong with that? You need more data than just a look at the general population like I said. I doubt writers go into every piece of material. Yeah this will be a guy because I don't like women. If it fits the material then he's going to be a guy. It's that simple.

The writing does not justify it which is the issue. It's not as if the majority of roles could only be played by men. Having more female writers also won't be a bad step.

I took the test a couple of times because there were a couple of questions that I didn't have a strong opinion either way, but didn't really want to hit the neutral button either

and the second

the results didn't change drastically tho To be honest idk what to think of this test. Can't say I agree with scoring so high in radical and marxist feminism


nice to see I scored the lowest out of yall in traditionalism though

Allstar wrote:

ChristNolan wrote:

Of course you score so high in traditionalism.. lmao.

And?

bruh quit baiting

I might take it again because there were some questions I didn't want to agree or disagree on. Kind of surprised by the radical feminism score since I regularly wear makeup and dresses and do things that are pretty feminine and therefore give into the patriarchy. I also didn't agree with banning pornography. The sites description of radical feminism is pretty lame tbh.

akv1984 wrote:I might take it again because there were some questions I didn't want to agree or disagree on. Kind of surprised by the radical feminism score since I regularly wear makeup and dresses and do things that are pretty feminine and therefore give into the patriarchy. I also didn't agree with banning pornography. The sites description of radical feminism is pretty lame tbh.

You really think wearing makeup and dresses is giving into patriarchy? Because it's not if you want to wear them.

Allstar wrote:

akv1984 wrote:I might take it again because there were some questions I didn't want to agree or disagree on. Kind of surprised by the radical feminism score since I regularly wear makeup and dresses and do things that are pretty feminine and therefore give into the patriarchy. I also didn't agree with banning pornography. The sites description of radical feminism is pretty lame tbh.

You really think wearing makeup and dresses is giving into patriarchy? Because it's not if you want to wear them.

The way radical feminism is described by the test says it is.

A true radical feminist would think that a lot of the things I do give into the patriarchy and based on the loose definition of radical feminism, I can't be a feminist in that regard.

Obviously, I do like wearing makeup and wearing dresses for my own sake, but if someone really wanted to waste my time and troll me all day long, they would ask me "Why do you want to wear them? Do you hope to attract a man? Why do you feel better with makeup and dresses on than without?" etc.

@akv, Yeah. Same. I actually really like makeup - not because I feel the need to look "pretty" for others (I mean we all want to look attractive to a degree, but it ain't my main goal), but I just like dem colors lmfao. I like the packaging. But mostly the colors and textures. It's cool and almost relaxing. I feel like humanity has fucked up enough times for us to need to cut off a lot of stuff from our daily lives to not give into something that is be bad or has stemmed from something terrible. Idk. I certainly wouldn't like to be told to just ditch some lipstick or something even though I do get why it was made in the first place.

When it comes to pornography, I kind of get their point though. I ain't no expert, but it is pretty objectifying and toxic to the image of women and can shape how men see us. But then again who's to say some women can't enjoy this sort of thing - maybe some do, and if they do, I don't think people can really come up and say it's wrong of them. Sometimes it's not really that deep. Besides, since it's become less of a taboo (I think lol?) for women to watch pornography, maybe the industry will shift the "representation" and treatment of women will change, or at least offer ugh more choices lol? So yeah I didn't agree with porn ban either. And all of the "women are inherently better than men" kind of statements.

Ruth wrote:@akv, Yeah. Same. I actually really like makeup - not because I feel the need to look "pretty" for others (I mean we all want to look attractive to a degree, but it ain't my main goal), but I just like dem colors lmfao. I like the packaging. But mostly the colors and textures. It's cool and almost relaxing. I feel like humanity has fucked up enough times for us to need to cut off a lot of stuff from our daily lives to not give into something that is be bad or has stemmed from something terrible. Idk. I certainly wouldn't like to be told to just ditch some lipstick or something even though I do get why it was made in the first place.

When it comes to pornography, I kind of get their point though. I ain't no expert, but it is pretty objectifying and toxic to the image of women and can shape how men see us. But then again who's to say some women can't enjoy this sort of thing - maybe some do, and if they do, I don't think people can really come up and say it's wrong of them. Sometimes it's not really that deep. Besides, since it's become less of a taboo (I think lol?) for women to watch pornography, maybe the industry will shift the "representation" and treatment of women will change, or at least offer ugh more choices lol? So yeah I didn't agree with porn ban either. And all of the "women are inherently better than men" kind of statements.

I've been enjoying wearing makeup lately because I found a foundation/powder combo that makes my skin look velvety and glowy. I also love wearing pretty rose gold eyeshadows blended out with a little taupe or brown shadow and then doing a small winged eye. I think overall I've become more obsessed with the texture of makeup and seeing it all come together for one glowing makeup look. While I do feel pretty with makeup on, I can still understand that a radical feminist would think that I'm still pretty without makeup on (hell even I think I look pretty without makeup on but at this point, I just really like the ritual of getting ready and the whole process of putting on makeup). A radical feminist would encourage me to save my money and not give anymore to the men who run the makeup companies (however this can be fixed by buying from companies run by women. But then again, even if the company is run by women, would it still be okay?).

I do see how pornography is toxic and damaging to women, but there has been a slight increase of female-led porn production houses. The focus of their porn is a lot more sensual and cute as opposed to the hardcore stuff you see in traditional porn.