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Okay let's stop

as i said he's a troll a.k.a. literally just someone who is purposefully fucking with you a.k.a. why are any of you conversing with him?

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mchekhov 2: Chek Harder wrote:as i said he's a troll a.k.a. literally just someone who is purposefully fucking with you a.k.a. why are any of you conversing with him?
But....what if he isn't??

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RIFA wrote:I have a feeling this guy is the second account of someone around here.
Lmao, same thought goes through my mind at least once a month.

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AsianVersionOfET wrote:I feel like a lot of you are reeeeally not treating demo with the same respect he's giving you. He's been nothing but respectful and open to communication with you guys.
Stop babysitting him. I've treated him alright, even after he went pretty much all guns blazing at me in another thread with no real basis (he did apologize afterwards, which I respect), yet he went on ignoring me on my last few responses, which I take it was because he doesn't have anything else to say, so bye.

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Demo wrote:I am not convinced that this is the case. I've seen Trump insult a lot of guys, just take a look at the GOP primaries. If you have an aggregate of his remarks or some other source to see if your claim is indeed true, please provide. Otherwise, I can claim the exact opposite, that is that Trump does an insulting treatment of men way more than with women, and then which one of us is correct? I feel it really depends on what type of media exposure you have. If you've been watching CNN for the past year, for example, it would feel perfectly reasonable to assume Trump is hell-bent on discriminating women. But that may not be an accurate representation of reality.

Another point: Suppose he does, statistically speaking, insult women more often - can you conclude that this is a case of discrimination? I'm not sure this is such a black/white thing. One possible scenario could be that the insults came as responses to what the insulted women said about him or to him before. If a lot women say something about Trump that triggers a response from him, it isn't honest to say that it's due to Trump's discrimination against women. It just means that if we run the numbers, we'll notice that more women are engaging with Trump, and because he's actively engaging back, he insults more women than men.
I'm talking specifically about rating people based on their looks. That's something he has done about women and not men. And you admitted yourself that's it's insulting. It's much more routine to rate women than to rate men, hence sexist behaviour.£

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Ruth wrote:
AsianVersionOfET wrote:I feel like a lot of you are reeeeally not treating demo with the same respect he's giving you. He's been nothing but respectful and open to communication with you guys.
Stop babysitting him. I've treated him alright, even after he went pretty much all guns blazing at me in another thread with no real basis (he did apologize afterwards, which I respect), yet he went on ignoring me on my last few responses, which I take it was because he doesn't have anything else to say, so bye.
You have to understand AsianVersionOfET is one of the few Trump apologists in this thread. Only natural to try and defend the guy. The reason why I think arguing with him is pointless is because whenever he got asked real fundamental and direct questions (see prince for example) he dodged them by spinning it around whatever akv said. So yeah...

He's been polite but his politeness is very similar to Trump's. I'd rather talk to someone who admits acting "bad" and is okay with it than to someone that is polite and dodges relevant questions thrown at him while also being low-key passive aggressive. That's shady behavior at best. And yeah... it's totally fine with being OK for being "bad". It's worse when you have to live in a society that doesn't allow that. (and that would be Trump's or Demo's society)

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Demo wrote:
Havoc1st wrote:Let's move on.I mean, the election was many weeks ago, i thought all this has died down. But i guess not.
Unfortunately. The democrats have been utterly defeated, and they don't seem to accept their defeat. MSM is doubling down with their selective presentation of reality in order to influence people, and as a consequence people get radicalized into violent action. Given the circumstances, it might no die down any time soon.
What i meant was let's move on from debating in this thread.

Also, i second what Pratham posted.

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AsianVersionOfET wrote:I feel like a lot of you are reeeeally not treating demo with the same respect he's giving you. He's been nothing but respectful and open to communication with you guys.
Thanks. Watch yourself, NF might burn you at the stake if you go on expressing your opinion like that. You're already an "apologist" in RIFA's book. You have been marked. :gonf:
Ruth wrote:Stop babysitting him.
I've already pointed out that reasonable people will see this discussion differently, and will see who is the emotionally charged aggressor, and who is the respectful conversationalist. An important part of these debates is to show others, the lurkers, how people carry themselves. You guys (not specifically you, Ruth) aren't really showing any signs of openness to discussion. Accusing me of being a troll like that dudebro mchekhov and akv1984 are doing, virtue-signaling in the form one-liners in order to inject himself into the discussion without contributing a single thing like RIFA is doing, calling members to stop debating like Cilogy and Havoc1st are doing.

Really, some of you are just clowns who use known tactics of censorship, to the point that you should really consider enrolling at a university, specifically Humanities faculty. You'll fit right in, and you'll make a lot of friends.
yet he went on ignoring me on my last few responses, which I take it was because he doesn't have anything else to say, so bye.
With all due respect, try to see what has happened since you posted your response. Please pay attention to two things:
1) I am one, you are many. I am not debating one person, I am debating you all. I was trying to respond to every post. Patience is required in such a case.
2) I was accused of being a troll shortly after you posted your reply, and my attention was shifted towards that instance. Inferring that I have nothing else to say about what you've wrote is simply false, and given the circumstances, a very narrow perspective on the latest happenings in this thread.

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