I thought it did. Crudup did a great job.
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Yes, those are the two best episodes, masterpieces to behold.Master Virgo wrote: ↑December 16th, 2019, 7:42 pm
The finale was very fulfilling overall, but I think "A God Walks into Abar" and "This Extraordinary Being" remain as my favourite episodes.
I agree with pretty much all of this.Demoph wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 6:30 pmYes, those are the two best episodes, masterpieces to behold.Master Virgo wrote: ↑December 16th, 2019, 7:42 pm
The finale was very fulfilling overall, but I think "A God Walks into Abar" and "This Extraordinary Being" remain as my favourite episodes.
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•shakespear•’s post on manhattan is superb and i agree with him. it made me consider things i may not have thought of before. one thing tho:
and having seen snyder’s version a few days ago, i.... just have to agree Crudup’s Manhattan is the way to go. Mind you, I mean purely performance-wise, not necessarily in terms of writing. I don’t know if the makeup fucked with my perception way too much beyond repair, but I truly think that makeup was a mistake.
I cannot help but feel like certain things in the finale left me wanting...more? And it’s where I agree with what Demoph is saying. Honestly this show is fucking extraordinary
and it is why, with so many astounding things happening in it, I was simultaneously somewhat disappointed to see certain stuff somewhat alluded to, but never really elaborated upon.
Just one more thing about the show - no fucking way they stop at season 1 lol. Also, I was typing all of this out on my phone so I forgot everything else I wanted to say lol
I cannot help but feel like certain things in the finale left me wanting...more? And it’s where I agree with what Demoph is saying. Honestly this show is fucking extraordinary
and it is why, with so many astounding things happening in it, I was simultaneously somewhat disappointed to see certain stuff somewhat alluded to, but never really elaborated upon.
Respectfully — and I do respect Berardinelli, most of the time — I disagree. For me, the performance and CGI construct are better in Snyderland, while Manhattan as written and developed is better off with Lindelof & Co.. Although, I have to admit not by much; upon recent rewatch of the movie adaptation, I reexamined my previous enjoyment of many, many things, but not Doctor Manhattan. I think Snyder provides the cold, detached exterior and Crudup fills the nuance of its heart and soul with pretty deep sadness.Master Virgo wrote: ↑December 17th, 2019, 5:08 pmI think Lindelof got Manhattan much better than Snyder. This is what Berardinelli says about Snyder's version which I agree to some extent.
.Billy Crudup (with a huge CGI assist) gives us the Dr. Manhattan Snyder apparently wants: a detached, emotionless enigma. In the comic book, Dr. Manhattan is a tragic, tortured figure, but not much of that comes across in the way Crudup portrays him
It’s also hard to compare directly because HBO’s version is very clearly playing with the ideas of appropriation in their portrayal, and thus what we’re seeing physically is not Doctor Manhattan from the graphic novel. As a nitpick, I would have preferred they use another voice for the
I think the show started great...
Absolutely disagree that Zack's version of Dr Manhattan doesn't provide what the comics does (but I get some folks love to hate him). Him and Crudup did a beautiful job in every way, and yes, Crudup is the ultimate Dr Manhattan, by far.
If anything, the show is shaky on several elements, one being the very idea that Jon Heh, doesn't track with anything in the original comics imo. It's an interesting take mind you.
And as for canon, I'm sorry but it matters. This is against Moore's wishes, you can't just say "heh, fuck him, he doesn't get to decide what is canon or not, although, mm, he is the author".
Look, Hooded Justice for example, there's a panel of his eyes in the comics,They did something very interesting with it in the show (although it is on the nose like several other things) but it is a retcon for a show that Lindelof says considers the comics as canon.
If anything, the show is shaky on several elements, one being the very idea that Jon
And as for canon, I'm sorry but it matters. This is against Moore's wishes, you can't just say "heh, fuck him, he doesn't get to decide what is canon or not, although, mm, he is the author".
Look, Hooded Justice for example, there's a panel of his eyes in the comics,
Lol.
ugh, I really didn't like the final episode much. I'm deeply happy we have this wildly ambitious show and I loved much of it. I'm such a fan of Watchmen and The Leftovers (which is the greatest thing ever) that there was no way it could live up to that honestly
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