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Christopher Nolan's time inverting spy film that follows a protagonist fighting for the survival of the entire world.
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The Special One wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 3:35 am
i really like jor el`s reactions, i also think he`s a cool dude.

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So this appears to have roughly 6 million views on YT within roughly 24 hours. Does anyone remember what Dunkirk's final was within 24 hours?

It was less, but I'm trying to recall how much.


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Flutterby wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 10:15 pm
revision323 wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 4:11 pm
So a line that kinda goes unnoticed amidst the louder aspects of the later part of the trailer -
RPat saying "we need to save them, here and now" - might possibly be hinting at the emotional arc for JDW?

The idea that with all of the power and responsibility of inversion, he might be getting a bit obsessed and losing hold on what the right thing to do is. It's classic CN to implement a direct emotional core like that into a sprawling narrative.
Totally agree with you dude. One of the smaller moments that is certainly way more important than it looks.
We need to save them, here and now.
This implies that
they could be saved later? Or before? In a different timeline?
Yeah exactly!
For myself, it's almost like he's imploring him to forget about the immense layers of power/scenarios that could happen. He's just telling him to save them at that exact moment, in that exact timeline. It could be an emotional hook for the audience.

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Regarding the prologue and some of your theories...
I agree it SEEMS like that mysterious person could be JDW, especially since his face is deliberately concealed. That is one "twist" we could all see coming, and I can even see it being true. I have two concerns, though, when it comes to this particular theory:

1. If we were to believe Robert Pattinson, JDW's character in the trailer and even Emma Thomas said this, I think, that there is no traditional time travel in the film, then this couldn't happen, right? JDW going back in time to save himself sounds pretty much your traditional, Back to the Futuresque time travel.

2. Also, Nolan already did the same exact thing in Interstellar with Cooper communicating with his daughter in the past. The same format followed: in the first few scenes we get weird and mysterious occurences that turn out to be a person from the future. I just think that Nolan wouldn't go down that route once again, but I could be totally wrong.

My proposal is that the identity of that mysterious guy in the prologue isn't a big twist at all, there's going to be no reveal. My proposal is that it's just a random agent from this "time inversion" group who wants to recruit JDW anyway, and he sees that he is in a tight situation, so he saves his ass - with time inversion. The question remains why his face is concealed then, but if it was REALLY JDW or any other main character from the film - coming back from the future to save the protagonist - then it pretty much negates my points above.

This concerns the other theory regarding Debicki and the kid as well, because that would also include time travel in the traditional sense.

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If you watch a certain TV spot :lol:
you’ll see [assumingely] JDW and RP wearing those concealed SWAT suits.

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Coop Cooper wrote:
May 21st, 2020, 8:55 pm
Interesting that the 3 films listed were TDK Trilogy, Inception, and Dunkirk. But no Interstellar. I would have either listed all 4, or switched out Dunkirk for Interstellar
I think, these movies are the closest in terms of context - BB, TDK (international terrorism), TDKR (left-wing revolution), Inception (subversive propaganda), Dunkirk (war), Tenet (intelligence agencies' activities)

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DHOPW42 wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 5:45 am
Regarding the prologue and some of your theories...
I agree it SEEMS like that mysterious person could be JDW, especially since his face is deliberately concealed. That is one "twist" we could all see coming, and I can even see it being true. I have two concerns, though, when it comes to this particular theory:

1. If we were to believe Robert Pattinson, JDW's character in the trailer and even Emma Thomas said this, I think, that there is no traditional time travel in the film, then this couldn't happen, right? JDW going back in time to save himself sounds pretty much your traditional, Back to the Futuresque time travel.

2. Also, Nolan already did the same exact thing in Interstellar with Cooper communicating with his daughter in the past. The same format followed: in the first few scenes we get weird and mysterious occurences that turn out to be a person from the future. I just think that Nolan wouldn't go down that route once again, but I could be totally wrong.

My proposal is that the identity of that mysterious guy in the prologue isn't a big twist at all, there's going to be no reveal. My proposal is that it's just a random agent from this "time inversion" group who wants to recruit JDW anyway, and he sees that he is in a tight situation, so he saves his ass - with time inversion. The question remains why his face is concealed then, but if it was REALLY JDW or any other main character from the film - coming back from the future to save the protagonist - then it pretty much negates my points above.

This concerns the other theory regarding Debicki and the kid as well, because that would also include time travel in the traditional sense.
Great insights man! :twothumbsup:

One thing I wouldn't focus on too much is Nolan reusing things he's done already. I mean come on, watch that Tenet trailer. It screams Inception 2 except it's time instead of dreams. It's my only fear: I really hope it won't be too much like something we've seen (in terms of plot I mean).

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DUNKIRKIE wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 11:06 pm
So what exactly is the relationship between Debicki and the boys she kisses. I don't feel that he is Debicki's son because she seems a little young to be a mother.
The setting looks like the 1940's so I'm assuming, that you're assuming, that we're assuming............
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Law wrote:
May 23rd, 2020, 8:12 am
DUNKIRKIE wrote:
May 22nd, 2020, 11:06 pm
So what exactly is the relationship between Debicki and the boys she kisses. I don't feel that he is Debicki's son because she seems a little young to be a mother.
The setting looks like the 1940's so I'm assuming, that you're assuming, that we're assuming............
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But... what makes it 1940s? This is the first time I hear about this, and I just don't see it.

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