Star Wars Episode IX - The Rise of Skywalker (2019)

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Zorii Bliss and Babu Frik are easily the best characters in this.

Too bad JJ barely uses them once they're introduced.

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The thing that probably annoys me the most is how
R2-D2, Chewie and C-3PO made it through the entire saga. Both the latter could have easily been killed off in this and it would have been fine because we as an auidence would have really felt something.

Especially 3PO. Would have been better if he just didn't come back.

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I absolutely love Babu. But who cares, he was there for 2 minutes tops.


Meanwhile, I’m just going to reserve a seat to witness the big reassessment of The Last Jedi that is absolutely coming even amongst the nutty parts of the fandom. Y’all know it’s coming sooner or later lol

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So it's time to watch TLJ again

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Ruth wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 8:10 am
Meanwhile, I’m just going to reserve a seat to witness the big reassessment of The Last Jedi that is absolutely coming even amongst the nutty parts of the fandom. Y’all know it’s coming sooner or later lol
Yep, 100%. I feel exhausted already

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The concept of death here is so silly.
Chewie is dead? Lol nope.
C3PO is dead? Lol nope, just mind wiped, or not.
Babu and Zorri are dead? Lol nope.
Kylo is dead? Nope and nope aaand... Actually, yup.
Leia is dead? Yup... Wait, now she definitely is.
Han Solo... In flesh. Wait, what??
Hux is the mole?! Lol whatever, shoot him in the face.
Luke as Force Ghost just grilling and chilling like old man Obi.
Rey is dead? Are you kidding me, you still believe that shit?
And Palpatine is dead, but not really cause sith magic, but then definitely is.
Etc etc
Just stahp. What a clusterfuck from so many directions.

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m4st4 wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 9:00 am
Hux is the mole?! Lol whatever, shoot him in the face.
This bothered me as well. Gleeson is totally wasted, and the
power struggle between Hux and Kylo set up in TLJ is absolutely wasted.

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m4st4 wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 12:01 am
Master Virgo wrote:
December 18th, 2019, 8:21 pm
How much is KMT's screentime?
If you want to know what happens between her and Finn in the movie.
He literally pats her on the shoulder that one time, that's that.
Allstar, it sounded better on paper. Once I saw it myself, the editing, the dialogues, everything felt wrong. This movie felt so rushed, no breathing room at all.
This is kinda it. There's actually good material in the story itself.
The idea of "the rise of Skywalker" being a Fordian lie to eradicate the line of Palpatine is really strong and very bold. The idea that the Skywalker bloodline dies out but the idea transcends the need for anything hereditary is an interesting but I think really fertile extension from the end of TLJ.

Similarly, the idea that the last Skywalker "dies" fulfilling the oath that Anakin swears on his mother's grave is really beautiful and profound in theory, and the film comes perilously close to making that work with the final scene, but no. It seems incidental instead.

In terms of Rey's arc, there are the ingredients there, but Abrams fumbles them EVEN WORSE than Lucas in the prequels. For example, I thought there was going to be some sort of link between the healing power and the lightning, and then maybe later on Rey would actually turn to Palpatine, like Anakin, to try and control the power -- like there's stuff that Jedi simply don't know, and this is inherent in her, but we were going to arrive at a point where she rebukes him and actively choses not to use her godly powers. But no, instead it's the Mace fight 2.0 but with none of the drama and the layering. Again, the components are not there, but Abrams' haphazard chopping and cutting and revising leaves us with nothing having any weight whatsoever.

You also have the INSANE decision to have the INCITING FUCKING INCIDENT happen... IN THE FUCKING CRAWL! That's... the thing! Instead you get a helpful Hobbitses telling them about nasty Snokeses and it's just like... yeah, shit, this is the problem we have now. Oh well. I guess that's the plot of the movie now! Fucking lame.

When you realise (I believe) that the opening planet is Mustafar and all the potential that could have come from that, and the second scene which is so eerie and fascinating and is loaded with potential, and then it turns out it's just Brofeld again saying "Hey, I did the plots for the other movies, including that one that didn't make much sense! Yes, this means that I've acted against my own interests in the past but who gives a fuck? I'm back baby!"

Nothing is funnier than Hux outing himself as the spy, and you laugh because you've already forgotten that there was even a spy plot because for all intents and purposes THERE ISN'T.

The best sequence is the Kijimi/Star Destroyer duel, which is one of the few times the film comes alive and has actual FILM IDEAS. Stands to reason it's an extension of a Rian Johnson concept. Unlike his predecessor, Johnson didn't box the next film into an impossible corner, and yet somehow Terrio and Abrams manage to disadvantage themselves through basic failures of storytelling. I would like to give benefit of doubt and say that this feels like a lot of really important stuff was left on the cutting room floor or retooled or reshot. There is, despite everything, potentially a really good film buried in here somewhere, but it would take a Tanis-level excavation (don't get me started on the film's feeble Spielbergian aspirations).
Can the 2022 film be Episode X: Escape to Midichlorian Mountain written and directed by GL starring Hayden and maybe Mark Lewis Jones reprising GOD CANADY on a subatomic quest for meaning and divine glory or some shit?

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ThePhantomTerror wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 9:50 am
m4st4 wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 9:00 am
Hux is the mole?! Lol whatever, shoot him in the face.
This bothered me as well. Gleeson is totally wasted, and the
power struggle between Hux and Kylo set up in TLJ is absolutely wasted.
Lmao, best part about that actually
is that J.J. is clearly disappointed in how Phasma was wasted in TLJ (listen to the first 30 seconds or so of this interview). Then he goes and does that to Hux. :lol:

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ArmandFancypants wrote:
December 19th, 2019, 9:54 am
You also have the INSANE decision to have the INCITING FUCKING INCIDENT happen... IN THE FUCKING CRAWL! That's... the thing! Instead you get a helpful Hobbitses telling them about nasty Snokeses and it's just like... yeah, shit, this is the problem we have now. Oh well. I guess that's the plot of the movie now! Fucking lame.

When you realise (I believe) that the opening planet is Mustafar and all the potential that could have come from that, and the second scene which is so eerie and fascinating and is loaded with potential, and then it turns out it's just Brofeld again saying "Hey, I did the plots for the other movies, including that one that didn't make much sense! Yes, this means that I've acted against my own interests in the past but who gives a fuck? I'm back baby!"
thought of exactly that when it came to Palpatine in this film

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