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Tenet - Box Office Autopsy
Nolan's Gate.
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Avatar says hello.Batman's Batman wrote: ↑August 8th, 2019, 1:47 pmI think, after giving my own question some thought, I know the answer: no! If you look at the current state of Hollywood, it's clear that you can't expect an original project with no name or franchise recognition to make a billion. No, not possible, even if Nolan directs it. The Dark Knight and its sequel made billions because they were movies about the biggest superhero the world has ever known besides Superman and Spider-Man. You had something to build from there. In this case, there is nothing outside of Nolan's name. Not even the cast sells this movie, because, outside of Pattinson, there are no leading people who have proven themselves to sell tickets for big blockbusters. When was the last time an original movie made over 700 million worldwide? All I'm thinking is Gravity. And that was seven years ago. This movie will be lucky to do Inception numbers. But even then it won't be as impressive, because its budget is said to be on 60 million higher than Inception's.
But Avatar was 10 years ago, the landscape has changed dramatically since, plus 3d was a fad lots of people bough into those days, IMAX is a much smaller niche than what 3d used to be.Sharkboy wrote: ↑August 10th, 2019, 5:09 amAvatar says hello.Batman's Batman wrote: ↑August 8th, 2019, 1:47 pmI think, after giving my own question some thought, I know the answer: no! If you look at the current state of Hollywood, it's clear that you can't expect an original project with no name or franchise recognition to make a billion. No, not possible, even if Nolan directs it. The Dark Knight and its sequel made billions because they were movies about the biggest superhero the world has ever known besides Superman and Spider-Man. You had something to build from there. In this case, there is nothing outside of Nolan's name. Not even the cast sells this movie, because, outside of Pattinson, there are no leading people who have proven themselves to sell tickets for big blockbusters. When was the last time an original movie made over 700 million worldwide? All I'm thinking is Gravity. And that was seven years ago. This movie will be lucky to do Inception numbers. But even then it won't be as impressive, because its budget is said to be on 60 million higher than Inception's.
Dolby has stolen a lot of IMAX's power in the States. It's honestly usually better, too.
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imax used to literally be the best thing and now it's literally the most deceptive and that upsets me
This makes me curious, could you enlighten me ?Disney+'s solo2001 wrote: ↑August 10th, 2019, 9:56 pmimax used to literally be the best thing and now it's literally the most deceptive and that upsets me
i mean here we only have 1 IMAX screen, and its digital imax, its still the best screen in the country, and has the best audio, but our standards may be understandably lower than over there.
^ thisDisney+'s solo2001 wrote: ↑August 10th, 2019, 9:56 pmimax used to literally be the best thing and now it's literally the most deceptive and that upsets me
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This. What avatar did so well, besides appealing to kids, was world-building. Cameron created a universe that could be expanded upon by him and others, much like Star Wars, Mad Max, James Bond, Matrix...Sharkboy wrote: ↑August 10th, 2019, 5:09 amAvatar says hello.Batman's Batman wrote: ↑August 8th, 2019, 1:47 pmI think, after giving my own question some thought, I know the answer: no! If you look at the current state of Hollywood, it's clear that you can't expect an original project with no name or franchise recognition to make a billion. No, not possible, even if Nolan directs it. The Dark Knight and its sequel made billions because they were movies about the biggest superhero the world has ever known besides Superman and Spider-Man. You had something to build from there. In this case, there is nothing outside of Nolan's name. Not even the cast sells this movie, because, outside of Pattinson, there are no leading people who have proven themselves to sell tickets for big blockbusters. When was the last time an original movie made over 700 million worldwide? All I'm thinking is Gravity. And that was seven years ago. This movie will be lucky to do Inception numbers. But even then it won't be as impressive, because its budget is said to be on 60 million higher than Inception's.
I think Inception had that potential, but Nolan may have resisted in the expansion of that universe or simply missed the mark a tiny tiny bit in the film to make it distinguishable from any other filmverse.
With Tenet I expect WB to push this as not just a one-off movie but a filmverse or landscape that can expand to other mediums... Not that it certainly will, but windows will be there. Tenet seems like an investment, not necessarily a project they believe will make a fortune by itself. This is an investment in a filmmaker and a new filmverse that they can turn into future endeavors. I think the teaser trailer indicates this with it's "time has..." Repetition, which is also clearly an indicator of the time-centric narrative and devices