MuffinMcFluffin wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:14 amYou know, this really is the first Nolan film that...
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LelekPL wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:37 amMuffinMcFluffin wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:14 amYou know, this really is the first Nolan film that...
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I would't say Copper's wife is a prominent character. She's not even a character... But I get your point.MuffinMcFluffin wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:50 amLelekPL wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:37 amMuffinMcFluffin wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:14 amYou know, this really is the first Nolan film that...
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LelekPL wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:37 amMuffinMcFluffin wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 2:14 amYou know, this really is the first Nolan film that...
Why do people get so caught up with the whole Nolan not writing women well thing? I'm a woman and his movies and characters never bother me. Sure, it's kind of humorous that there is almost always a dead wife, but in the end it works for the movie and that is what matters. Just curious what the big deal is and why so many people focus on it all the time.
No one said he doesn't write them well. I think it's humorous as well after being informed of the fact that this happens often.marshallmurphy wrote: ↑September 6th, 2020, 7:54 pmWhy do people get so caught up with the whole Nolan not writing women well thing? I'm a woman and his movies and characters never bother me. Sure, it's kind of humorous that there is almost always a dead wife, but in the end it works for the movie and that is what matters. Just curious what the big deal is and why so many people focus on it all the time.
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I don't think he does a bad job writing women. Compared to most female characters in Hollywood films in recent years, I will take his fractured, abusive, damsel in distress or tormented female characters over the Mary Sue perfect idealized women we see in Hollywood studio films.
But there also is nothing to write home about most of the women in his movies. Just how it is and Nolan certainly is a leg down in that department when you start to compare the depth of those characters to the women that you may see in the works of Cronenberg, Lynch, Campion, the Wasikowskis, Tarantino, PTA or other directors who are responsible for some very iconic/great female characters.
Of course, one can also say Nolan has never been particularly a very good character writer as that is not what he aims to do with his films.
But there also is nothing to write home about most of the women in his movies. Just how it is and Nolan certainly is a leg down in that department when you start to compare the depth of those characters to the women that you may see in the works of Cronenberg, Lynch, Campion, the Wasikowskis, Tarantino, PTA or other directors who are responsible for some very iconic/great female characters.
Of course, one can also say Nolan has never been particularly a very good character writer as that is not what he aims to do with his films.
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Nolan is far from alone in failing to write interesting female characters. What was the last complex, interesting female character from Scorsese? Karen from Goodfellas? Ellen Burstyn from Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore?
The Coen Brothers? Love Kubrick but outside of Lolita and Shelly Duvall, who for most of the Shining was a door mat, what interesting female characters did he have?
Lots of male directors have lacking female characters. Hopefully that will start to change.
The Coen Brothers? Love Kubrick but outside of Lolita and Shelly Duvall, who for most of the Shining was a door mat, what interesting female characters did he have?
Lots of male directors have lacking female characters. Hopefully that will start to change.
I guess the way I see it is that Nolan writes his own movies, and being a man it makes sense that his lead would be a male - people write what they know. I don't personally have an issue with the "victim" role or damsel in distress, as this is sometimes a necessary trope. He writes his own movies, so he can do what he wants. That being said, I would love to see Nolan get a little more creative with his female characters because as a woman I do enjoy watching women on screen, doing interesting things, but it won't bother me if he never does.
