Interesting article.
https://www.polygon.com/2021/1/17/22233 ... lan-script
https://www.polygon.com/2021/1/17/22233 ... lan-script
Demoph wrote: ↑January 17th, 2021, 1:12 pmInteresting article.
https://www.polygon.com/2021/1/17/22233 ... lan-script
My first thought after watching the film back then in September..Kat and her son? They’re never shown together, so we never get to learn for ourselves what their relationship is like. We know the evil man is an evil man because we are told he is an evil man. There is a grand, operatic story of greed, selflessness, and duty hidden inside Tenet, but it’s initially obscured by Nolan’s decision to show us everything except the things that matter most.
the article is very nicely put
I think Nolan was in complete control in Tenet; the man just wanted to make it that way, in my opinion. As we know, this a director/writer who has made other films with a much more discernible emotional core, so it’s very unlikely he wasn’t somewhat aware of how Tenet could turn out if we consider his earlier works. My point is he knows about these important characteristics when it comes to storytelling. Therefore, it seemed rather intentional to me how this movie actually ended up, and part of the reason why I believe this to be true it's due to his insistence in the idea of how people should focus on the experience and wonder about other complexities later if there were any.
He was very aware:Paradoxicalparabola wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2021, 10:57 amI think Nolan was in complete control in Tenet; the man just wanted to make it that way, in my opinion. As we know, this a director/writer who has made other films with a much more discernible emotional core, so it’s very unlikely he wasn’t somewhat aware of how Tenet could turn out if we consider his earlier works. My point is he knows about these important characteristics when it comes to storytelling. Therefore, it seemed rather intentional to me how this movie actually ended up, and part of the reason why I believe this to be true it's due to his insistence in the idea of how people should focus on the experience and wonder about other complexities later if there were any.
Now, if that works for people or not, it's a different discussion. No movie is perfect at the end of the day.
“Can you be sincere and self-conscious? I’m not sure you can. There are things in this project that are all very direct repeats of things I’ve done in the past—I’m shooting a shell case going back into a gun and I’ve literally done that before—and the sincerity to me is in not taking them out. When I was writing the film, I went rogue for a long time on my own, without anyone knowing what I was doing, but when I showed the script to my brother, I asked him, ‘Is this me repeating myself?’ He was like, ‘No, it’s more the apotheosis of a set of ideas.’ I said, ‘Great, that’s how I feel about it.’ You’re working out your fascinations in public so people see a development of things, and in some senses that’s good. And in another sense, it can be reductive. It can be like, ‘Okay, he’s repeating himself.’ That knowledge is dangerous. Yes, I’m aware of it, but I’m not riffing on my past work. I’m trying to be true to the impulses that have defined me. In other words, I didn’t finish the last film and go, ‘Okay, I should do another Inception.’ That wasn’t really in my thinking. But emotionally this is the film that was in my heart. You’re driving at something; you’re driving at your own obsessions cinematically.”
Thank you for that. Would you provide the source? Please. So yes, Nolan knows about storytelling but the way he decided to go for this film was different, deliberately if you will.natalie wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2021, 11:47 am
He was very aware:“Can you be sincere and self-conscious? I’m not sure you can. There are things in this project that are all very direct repeats of things I’ve done in the past—I’m shooting a shell case going back into a gun and I’ve literally done that before—and the sincerity to me is in not taking them out. When I was writing the film, I went rogue for a long time on my own, without anyone knowing what I was doing, but when I showed the script to my brother, I asked him, ‘Is this me repeating myself?’ He was like, ‘No, it’s more the apotheosis of a set of ideas.’ I said, ‘Great, that’s how I feel about it.’ You’re working out your fascinations in public so people see a development of things, and in some senses that’s good. And in another sense, it can be reductive. It can be like, ‘Okay, he’s repeating himself.’ That knowledge is dangerous. Yes, I’m aware of it, but I’m not riffing on my past work. I’m trying to be true to the impulses that have defined me. In other words, I didn’t finish the last film and go, ‘Okay, I should do another Inception.’ That wasn’t really in my thinking. But emotionally this is the film that was in my heart. You’re driving at something; you’re driving at your own obsessions cinematically.”
The Nolan VariationsParadoxicalparabola wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2021, 12:53 pmThank you for that. Would you provide the source? Please. So yes, Nolan knows about storytelling but the way he decided to go for this film was different, deliberately if you will.natalie wrote: ↑January 23rd, 2021, 11:47 am
He was very aware:“Can you be sincere and self-conscious? I’m not sure you can. There are things in this project that are all very direct repeats of things I’ve done in the past—I’m shooting a shell case going back into a gun and I’ve literally done that before—and the sincerity to me is in not taking them out. When I was writing the film, I went rogue for a long time on my own, without anyone knowing what I was doing, but when I showed the script to my brother, I asked him, ‘Is this me repeating myself?’ He was like, ‘No, it’s more the apotheosis of a set of ideas.’ I said, ‘Great, that’s how I feel about it.’ You’re working out your fascinations in public so people see a development of things, and in some senses that’s good. And in another sense, it can be reductive. It can be like, ‘Okay, he’s repeating himself.’ That knowledge is dangerous. Yes, I’m aware of it, but I’m not riffing on my past work. I’m trying to be true to the impulses that have defined me. In other words, I didn’t finish the last film and go, ‘Okay, I should do another Inception.’ That wasn’t really in my thinking. But emotionally this is the film that was in my heart. You’re driving at something; you’re driving at your own obsessions cinematically.”
I think Tenet is original and innovative. It has some weaknesses, sure. Nonetheless, to me it still felt like something new which is also congruent with what he said in 2019 and it was "tell stories in an exciting way, and bring fresh ideas, fresh takes on existing genres and new genres – inventing new genres.". The movie may not work that much or at all for others but it does for me in its perceived intention.