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Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:30 am
by tim_p
Angus wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:05 am
Nolan signed off on this; there's no way it's as simple as "Time has come for a new protagonist" in the literal sense.
Or that's exactly what it does (partly) mean in the literal sense.

Time has come for a new protagonist

Time wants a new 'person' to fight/interact with...

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:33 am
by sebal24
Angus wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:28 am
sebal24 wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:21 am
Angus wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:05 am
The tagline is just too weird for a Nolan movie without it meaning something significant. Nolan signed off on this; there's no way it's as simple as "Time has come for a new protagonist" in the literal sense.

So I got to thinking: "Protagonist" has another definition not related to heroes and good guys.




I think a protagonist in this film's universe is a "job title." As in, "What do you do for a living?" / "I'm what they call a protagonist."

This seems to feel related to the definition of "Tenet."



I think "protagonist" is a supporter, and "tenet" is a cause.
Meaning that JDW is a supporter of a cause; He's a protagonist of the tenet.
You may be right.

Have you read "The End of Eternity" written by Isaac Asimov?
Maybe JDW is a kind of "editor" of reality outside of time. He implements "tenet".
He steps in, and make small changes that have great impact in the future.

Being this a Nolan film, the ending is...
He is the one that it's being changed by his own changes.
Yep.

I also think this is absolutely related to Inception.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hstBN0Qkqhc

Your mind is the scene of the crime.
JDW appears to be at the scene of a crime.

Time has come.
The importance of Time in Inception.

A new protagonist.
A new main "hero" now that Cobb is retired.

A new mission.
A new mission now that the mission of Inception is over.
"A new mission" tag is like a cliché. But relating it to Inception... That's a good one!
Perhaps it's a different universe, but a new "kind" of mission about the inception of an idea.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:34 am
by Nolan62
sebal24 wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:33 am

"A new mission" tag is like a cliché. But relating it to Inception... That's a good one!
Perhaps it's a different universe, but a new "kind" of mission about the inception of an idea.
it's not " a new mission" but "a new kind of mission"
It's not the same thing.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:37 am
by Sanchez
FFS can you guys stop quoting gigantic posts all the time? Makes the mobile experience fucking terrible browsing this forum.
ANONIMNIQ wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:29 am
It's called science FICTION for a reason, lol
It's also called science for a reason. If you think Inception is more sci-fi than fantasy you should look up the definitions. Same goes for the cloning in The Prestige and all the time travel/future Cooper warning Murph shit in Interstellar. It's all fantasy elements.

Dragons and wands aren't required for something to be fantasy. Star Wars is a fantasy franchise.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:38 am
by Nolan62
Sanchez wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:37 am
FFS can you guys stop quoting gigantic posts all the time? Makes the mobile experience fucking terrible browsing this forum.
ANONIMNIQ wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:29 am
It's called science FICTION for a reason, lol
It's also called science for a reason. If you think Inception is more sci-fi than fantasy you should look up the definitions. Same goes for the cloning in The Prestige and all the time travel/future Cooper warning Murph shit. It's all fantasy elements.

Dragons and wands aren't required for something to be fantasy. Star Wars is a fantasy franchise.
Yeah, Inception is absolutely not a science-fiction movie but purely fantasy, agree.

Interstellar, on the contrary is dealing with science-fiction, with all these thematics threated and the context.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:41 am
by MyCocaine
It seems to restart by a few frames every time a title card appears in the teaser.

It's too jarring and noticeable to be a sloppy editing mistake.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:45 am
by ANONIMNIQ
So what is your definition for sci-fi? Inception - fantasy? I can't find any site that lists Inception as a fantasy genre movie. The plot is based on a machine ... not on some kind of supernatural powers. Where is the fantasy here? Everything is happening in a dream world and even this dream world is still really similar to reality.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:49 am
by Nolan62
We'll discover once and for all that it's an original story which has nothing to do with Inception when we'll see what character Michael Caine is playing, in fact ;)

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 11:50 am
by AsianVersionOfET
I need this trailer released in HD goodness right now. Come on Nolan, bless us with your glorious seed. I want it in my brain.

Re: Teaser/Trailer #1

Posted: August 2nd, 2019, 12:06 pm
by Tarssauce
Nolan62 wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:49 am
We'll discover once and for all that it's an original story which has nothing to do with Inception when we'll see what character Michael Caine is playing, in fact ;)
It makes no sense that of all characters in Inception, his character is the one to return.