Hmm good read, interesting stuff
But seriously, why is JDW's character called Protagonist... That's weird man haha
But seriously, why is JDW's character called Protagonist... That's weird man haha
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They will drop the full feature online? Well that's nice to know. Turn on the Twitter notification now.antovolk wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 2:46 amI'm guessing that's gonna happen today. EW don't announce in advance now, they just drop the full feature and photos online.intersteIIarx wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 1:33 amthanks and you're welcome guys. Hopefully EW will announce the July issue and give us HQ pics and quotes. I'm very surprised they haven't even advertised the feature yet lol
Thank you for getting your hands on these scans by the way!
Yeah 'Protagonist' and Neil don't really have a ring to it loldragon_phoenix wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 3:59 amThis is major spoilers...It kidda reminds me of Kingsman: The Golden Circle. If you have watched the movie, you will know what I mean.
To me I'm picturing the Skyfall opening sequence leading up to the train
I just rewatched TDKR, looks like the Tallinn chase is similar but Nolan has upped it! I mean I can handle 'Neil', but I'm just wondering what the function of the name 'Protagonist' is? Why would he be called that by other characters? Because he literally is the protagonist of the story and the other characters see him in that way too? That would be... fairly odd tbh
The article says that it's a codename. Just like Neil, isn't it?Willem wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 4:41 amI mean I can handle 'Neil', but I'm just wondering what the function of the name 'Protagonist' is? Why would he be called that by other characters? Because he literally is the protagonist of the story and the other characters see him in that way too? That would be... fairly odd tbh
I'm aware of that. But either way he will be referred to as Protagonist, that's my point
But I guess we'll see. Pretty sure there will be a logical explanation in the movie.
But I guess we'll see. Pretty sure there will be a logical explanation in the movie.
No need to be worried. It’s not ideal but it can work very well. I’d be worried if it was a pure orchestral score (like Star Wars). The score (based on what we heard so far) already has so many heavily processed sounds, and is very heavy on guitars and synths.radewart wrote: ↑June 17th, 2020, 10:30 pmNot able to read the scans yet, but they are releasing the movie without an score composed by an orchestral!!! This sounds terrible. I big key to any movie being good is the scores, but I think music has been an even bigger part of Nolan's film. Imagine "Inception" without Zimmer's great score. What are they doing instead? A bunch of synthesizers? This has me worried about the film.
Also, samples have come a long way. Zimmer wrote the entire Interstellar score with samples and at one point he wanted to just use that version of it. He made his own string sample library with Spitfire Audio for Dunkirk.
Listen to his X-periments album (demos for Dark Phoenix) none of it was recorded live.
One more thing, Inception was quite heavy on synths and guitars.
This probably put a damper on editing and more pressure on Jen Lame right? She's got to wait for the score to finalised before she can probably finish the edit. I've seen bts of Interstellar and Lee Smith sat in with Hans and Nolan working on the score.Tarssauce wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 5:00 amNo need to be worried. It’s not ideal but it can work very well. I’d be worried if it was a pure orchestral score (like Star Wars). The score (based on what we heard so far) already has so many heavily processed sounds, and is very heavy on guitars and synths.
Also, samples have come a long way. Zimmer wrote the entire Interstellar score with samples and at one point he wanted to just use that version of it. He made his own string sample library with Spitfire Audio for Dunkirk.
Listen to his X-periments album (demos for Dark Phoenix) none of it was recorded live.
One more thing, Inception was quite heavy on synths and guitars.
Also I can't imagine how many things Nolan's mind is juggling right now between the theatres headache and a lot of this post production.The budget will likely increase and the process is much slower.
No, that’s not how it works. There are different cases depending on the movie, director and composer. Usually, the editor uses pre-existing music to edit with known as temp (as in temporary score). Then the temp score is replaced with the actual score. Composers usually prefer to work with locked cuts because their work is so precise any new picture cut, even a single frame cut or added shifts everything and they have to rework the music - or the music editor does it for them if it’s small enough of a task.intersteIIarx wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 5:14 amThis probably put a damper on editing and more pressure on Jen Lame right? She's got to wait for the score to finalised before she can probably finish the edit. I've seen bts of Interstellar and Lee Smith sat in with Hans and Nolan working on the score.
Nolan doesn’t do temp as in he gets the composer early and gets them to write suites (long demos and ideas) and he uses their original material as temp. In this case, Ludwig is waiting for Lame to provide him the final cut so he can finalize the score. Score and sound editing/mixing are usually the last to finish for the reasons I explained above.
Composers today are able to produce mockups that sound so close to the final recordings. So the recording sessions are only important to replace the synthetic orchestral parts with the live recordings.
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100% correctTarssauce wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 5:39 amNo, that’s not how it works. There are different cases depending on the movie, director and composer. Usually, the editor uses pre-existing music to edit with known as temp (as in temporary score). Then the temp score is replaced with the actual score. Composers usually prefer to work with locked cuts because their work is so precise any new picture cut, even a single frame cut or added shifts everything and they have to rework the music - or the music editor does it for them if it’s small enough of a task.intersteIIarx wrote: ↑June 18th, 2020, 5:14 amThis probably put a damper on editing and more pressure on Jen Lame right? She's got to wait for the score to finalised before she can probably finish the edit. I've seen bts of Interstellar and Lee Smith sat in with Hans and Nolan working on the score.
Nolan doesn’t do temp as in he gets the composer early and gets them to write suites (long demos and ideas) and he uses their original material as temp. In this case, Ludwig is waiting for Lame to provide him the final cut so he can finalize the score. Score and sound editing/mixing are usually the last to finish for the reasons I explained above.
Composers today are able to produce mockups that sound so close to the final recordings. So the recording sessions are only important to replace the synthetic orchestral parts with the live recordings.
