Interstellar Analysis: Religious Symbolism/Themes

Christopher Nolan's 2014 grand scale science-fiction story about time and space, and the things that transcend them.
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One of the books on Murph's bookshelf is "A Wrinkle in Time" by Madeleine L’Engle

Nolan says of the book:
“My introduction to the idea of higher dimensions, including the notion of a tesseract.”
This is noteworthy because:

a) A Wrinkle in Time is a FANTASTIC novel and is one of the most successful children's books of the 20th century... any of you with kids should have them read it. It really opens up the imagination (a children's novel about a tesseract! seriously!).

b) The author's work and the worldview evinced in her oeuvre indicates a fusion of science and religious belief. As Wikipedia states: "Her works reflect both her Christian faith and her strong interest in modern science." -- and this is an author who directly influenced Nolan.

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MyCocaine wrote:
ras_al_deacon wrote:
genloovers wrote:There's an interview out in which nolan says the movie is not at all religious. This thread is about as legitimate as someone creating a thread about the films pagan themes/symbolism. Or the movies Jewish themes/symbolism.
Link?
There is no link since Nolan never said it. In fact he calls Interstellar an religious film in the Interstellar music featurette.
Link: http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... usive.html
"And I also made the case very strongly for some feeling of religiosity to it, even though the film isn't religious, but that.... the film represents mankind's attempt to portray the mystical or the metaphysical..." - Nolan, in that interview.

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Sweet, I saw that yesterday.

The verbatim quote is:
" I made the case for some feeling of religiosity, even though the film isn't religious, but that the organ, the architecture in cathedrals represent mankind's attempt to portray the mystical or the metaphysical, beyond the everyday."
I find it quite interesting that Nolan would specifically mention the architecture of cathedrals, because they were specifically constructed to model the celestial heavens. Moreover, they were also meant to create a type of metaphor for man being at the center of the universe. Given the events of the film's third act, it's an indication of Nolan's intent as a storyteller -- to have a character reach the center of himself by journeying far out into space.

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OK, speaking of the devil (heh-heh), this is in the New York Times today:

Love and Gravity
NOV. 20, 2014

David Brooks

Most Hollywood movies are about romantic love, or at least sex. But Christopher Nolan’s epic movie “Interstellar” has almost no couples, so you don’t get the charged romance you have in normal movies where a man and a woman are off saving the world.

Instead, there are the slightly different kinds of love, from generation to generation, and across time and space.

The movie starts on a farm, and you see a grandfather’s love for his grandkids and the children’s love for their father. (Mom had died sometime earlier).

The planet is hit by an environmental catastrophe, and, in that crisis, lives are torn apart. The father, played by Matthew McConaughey, goes off into space to find a replacement planet where humanity might survive. The movie is propelled by the angry love of his abandoned daughter, who loves and rages at him for leaving, decade after decade.

On top of that, there is an even more attenuated love. It’s the love humans have for their ancestors and the love they have for the unborn. In the movie, 12 apostles go out alone into space to look for habitable planets. They are sacrificing their lives so that canisters of frozen embryos can be born again in some place far away.

Nolan wants us to see the magnetic force of these attachments: The way attachments can exert a gravitational pull on people who are separated by vast distances or even by death. Their attention is riveted by the beloved. They hunger for reunion.

When the McConaughey character goes into space he leaves behind the rules of everyday earthly life and enters the realm of quantum mechanics and relativity. Gravity becomes variable. It’s different on different planets. Space bends in on itself. The astronauts fly through a wormhole, a fold in the universe connecting one piece of space with another distant piece.

Most important, time changes speed. McConaughey is off to places where time is moving much more slowly than it is on Earth, so he ends up younger than his daughter. Once in the place of an ancestor, he becomes, effectively, her descendant.

These plotlines are generally based on real science. The physicist Kip Thorne has a book out, “The Science of Interstellar,” explaining it all. But what matters in the movie is the way science and emotion (and a really loud score) mingle to create a powerful mystical atmosphere.

Nolan introduces the concept of quantum entanglement. That’s when two particles that have interacted with each other behave as one even though they might be far apart. He then shows how people in love display some of those same features. They react in the same way at the same time to the same things.

The characters in the movie are frequently experiencing cross-cutting and mystical connections that transcend time and space. It’s like the kind of transcendent sensation you or I might have if we visited an old battlefield and felt connected by mystic chords of memory to the people who fought there long ago; or if we visited the house we grew up in and felt in deep communion with people who are now dead.

Bloggers have noticed the religious symbols in the movie. There are those 12 apostles, and there’s a Noah’s ark. There is a fallen angel named Dr. Mann who turns satanic in an inverse Garden of Eden. The space project is named Lazarus. The heroine saves the world at age 33. There’s an infinitely greater and incorporeal intelligence offering merciful salvation.

But this isn’t an explicitly religious movie. “Interstellar” is important because amid all the culture wars between science and faith and science and the humanities, the movie illustrates the real symbiosis between these realms.

More, it shows how modern science is influencing culture. People have always bent their worldviews around the latest scientific advances. After Newton, philosophers conceived a clockwork universe. Individuals were seen as cogs in a big machine and could be slotted into vast bureaucratic systems.

But in the era of quantum entanglement and relativity, everything looks emergent and interconnected. Life looks less like a machine and more like endlessly complex patterns of waves and particles. Vast social engineering projects look less promising, because of the complexity, but webs of loving and meaningful relationships can do amazing good.

As the poet Christian Wiman wrote in his masterpiece, “My Bright Abyss,” “If quantum entanglement is true, if related particles react in similar or opposite ways even when separated by tremendous distances, then it is obvious that the whole world is alive and communicating in ways we do not fully understand. And we are part of that life, part of that communication. ...”

I suspect “Interstellar” will leave many people with a radical openness to strange truth just below and above the realm of the everyday. That makes it something of a cultural event.

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Hey if this film opens up religious people to science instead of worrying about whether gays are going to hell, I'm all for it. Regardless of their logic.

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Izzycrowe wrote:Hey if this film opens up religious people to science instead of worrying about whether gays are going to hell, I'm all for it. Regardless of their logic.
It won't. I'll be surprised if it does.

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Aili wrote:OK, speaking of the devil (heh-heh), this is in the New York Times today:

Love and Gravity
NOV. 20, 2014

David Brooks

Most Hollywood movies are about romantic love, or at least sex. But Christopher Nolan’s epic movie “Interstellar” has almost no couples, so you don’t get the charged romance you have in normal movies where a man and a woman are off saving the world.

Instead, there are the slightly different kinds of love, from generation to generation, and across time and space.

The movie starts on a farm, and you see a grandfather’s love for his grandkids and the children’s love for their father. (Mom had died sometime earlier).

The planet is hit by an environmental catastrophe, and, in that crisis, lives are torn apart. The father, played by Matthew McConaughey, goes off into space to find a replacement planet where humanity might survive. The movie is propelled by the angry love of his abandoned daughter, who loves and rages at him for leaving, decade after decade.

On top of that, there is an even more attenuated love. It’s the love humans have for their ancestors and the love they have for the unborn. In the movie, 12 apostles go out alone into space to look for habitable planets. They are sacrificing their lives so that canisters of frozen embryos can be born again in some place far away.

Nolan wants us to see the magnetic force of these attachments: The way attachments can exert a gravitational pull on people who are separated by vast distances or even by death. Their attention is riveted by the beloved. They hunger for reunion.

When the McConaughey character goes into space he leaves behind the rules of everyday earthly life and enters the realm of quantum mechanics and relativity. Gravity becomes variable. It’s different on different planets. Space bends in on itself. The astronauts fly through a wormhole, a fold in the universe connecting one piece of space with another distant piece.

Most important, time changes speed. McConaughey is off to places where time is moving much more slowly than it is on Earth, so he ends up younger than his daughter. Once in the place of an ancestor, he becomes, effectively, her descendant.

These plotlines are generally based on real science. The physicist Kip Thorne has a book out, “The Science of Interstellar,” explaining it all. But what matters in the movie is the way science and emotion (and a really loud score) mingle to create a powerful mystical atmosphere.

Nolan introduces the concept of quantum entanglement. That’s when two particles that have interacted with each other behave as one even though they might be far apart. He then shows how people in love display some of those same features. They react in the same way at the same time to the same things.

The characters in the movie are frequently experiencing cross-cutting and mystical connections that transcend time and space. It’s like the kind of transcendent sensation you or I might have if we visited an old battlefield and felt connected by mystic chords of memory to the people who fought there long ago; or if we visited the house we grew up in and felt in deep communion with people who are now dead.

Bloggers have noticed the religious symbols in the movie. There are those 12 apostles, and there’s a Noah’s ark. There is a fallen angel named Dr. Mann who turns satanic in an inverse Garden of Eden. The space project is named Lazarus. The heroine saves the world at age 33. There’s an infinitely greater and incorporeal intelligence offering merciful salvation.

But this isn’t an explicitly religious movie. “Interstellar” is important because amid all the culture wars between science and faith and science and the humanities, the movie illustrates the real symbiosis between these realms.

More, it shows how modern science is influencing culture. People have always bent their worldviews around the latest scientific advances. After Newton, philosophers conceived a clockwork universe. Individuals were seen as cogs in a big machine and could be slotted into vast bureaucratic systems.

But in the era of quantum entanglement and relativity, everything looks emergent and interconnected. Life looks less like a machine and more like endlessly complex patterns of waves and particles. Vast social engineering projects look less promising, because of the complexity, but webs of loving and meaningful relationships can do amazing good.

As the poet Christian Wiman wrote in his masterpiece, “My Bright Abyss,” “If quantum entanglement is true, if related particles react in similar or opposite ways even when separated by tremendous distances, then it is obvious that the whole world is alive and communicating in ways we do not fully understand. And we are part of that life, part of that communication. ...”

I suspect “Interstellar” will leave many people with a radical openness to strange truth just below and above the realm of the everyday. That makes it something of a cultural event.
That is exactly what I thought about! This is exactly what I have been thinking about since I saw the movie :gonf:

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wow, david brooks is a racist scumbag, but that column is pretty eloquent.

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I thought I would rehash this a little bit. I am not necessarily espousing my views on religion, but this is what I got from the movie. I felt like it was a big rejection of religion in some ways and Nolan did it through embracing religious allegories throughout the film, the loud church-organ score, and these all powerful aliens/gods who are here to save us. The movie plays on the religious themes and connotations until it completely rejects them in the big reveal during the tesseract scene. Coop was the ghost, not "them", and "them" were future humans, not gods or aliens. Therefore, this movie is the ultimate humanist movie if you ask me. Thoughts?

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