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anakin234 wrote:Just got back from a 2nd screening and I think I love the movie even more. It helped me catch a lot of little details I missed the first time around.
Also, I'm not sure if it's just me seeing things but...
I'm just glad they showed him cause on the other side of that table was Selina. That pretty much perished any kind of inception ending.Redsmile wrote:Anyway
I agree with you that TDKR is a dark, dark place but then, so was TDK. I even thought it was worst because TDK was about "not believing in humanity" wherease TDKR showed how only some people were evil and it depended of the conditions they'd grown in. TDK was also about hiding the truth because people might not be able to handle it, sacrificing yourself for others, good turning evil. IMO, TDKR was about hope, how when everything seems gone/destructed there's still hope, there's still a reason to fight for your life. Yes, in the end there's no more Gotham but it's time for everyone to start a new life, build their own town and make it a better place. The whole movie was a message of hope, so I can't really say it's darker than TDK.Robbman wrote: I think I might not have explained myself well. I'm not saying that it's not a likeable film (I loved it), and that it doesn't have its moment of humor or lightheartedness.. but in general, this world is a dark, dark place.. the darkest its been in these movies and that creeps into the psyche while watching. I think that's the source of critics and fans alike that have problems with the film. This is not the same Gotham we saw in either of the two installments in that it is at its lowest point, Bruce Wayne is at his lowest point, Wayne Enterprises is crumbling. There's a lot of emotional, spirtitual and literal decay going on and we've never seen circumstances so dire. That's Nolan's biggest success in this film, is conveying that feeling throughout the movie. The ending is bittersweet, not tremendously uplifting.
I'm agreeing with you that this film doesn't have definitive plot holes, that was really an answer to a post somewhere above.
Yep, this isn't Inception but people seem to keep forgetting it...m4st4 wrote:It's 100% real. Selina Kyle confirms it. If it weren't for her... And there are many other factors too.huskerdu wrote:
If you want it to be.
THIS... Enough said to prove it wasn't some dream...prince0gotham wrote: Dreams don't have a contextual sense in Batman. Even if they did, the story's ending didn't switch to one character's POV to imply the room for suggestion that it was a dream. And why would it be 'wishful thinking'? Oh the ending is just Alfred's wishful thinking". How does that sound? The trilogy has used a lot of flashbacks, on several occasions it used hallucinations (when there was hallucinogenic effect) and once it showed a flashbacky-dream-cameo-appearance when Bruce was totally in the physical and psychological state of hallucinating.
Yeah, right... That's what I thought as well...anikom15 wrote: