There are two ways to think about the kick
PULL: The kick happens in the prior or lesser dream state to “PULL” you from the deeper dream state
PUSH: The kick happens in the current dream state to “PUSH” you from the current or deeper dream state back in the lesser dream state (above)
The “PULL” kick is seen when Arthur is pushed from the chair to exemplify how a kick works to Ariadne. The “PUSH” kick is seen moments later when they are exemplifying a timed kick with music (Arthur and Ariadne are in lounge chairs and Arthur is woken up)... we don’t actually see the kick itself here, but the result.
We can look at the heist and apply these two methods.. but either way, it leads to an inconsistency...
PUSH:
Ariadne: Phase 4/Limbo - She jumps from a building in freefall, which gives her a “PUSH” kick into Phase 3...in Phase 3, she is falling from the exploding building, pushing her into Phase 2...where she is falling to the floor of the shaft/floor of the elevator once the elevator crashes into the shaft (they weren’t falling while the elevator was falling because they were being pushed by the elevator... a very different effect due to the way acceleration works in physics)... now she is pushed into the van from the elevator, but the van is falling (free fall which is the type of fall you would lose your breath on, but doesn’t get “PUSH”ed to the plane... in fact none of them do.
Eams: Phase 3 - pushed from the free falling/exploding building. Phase 2 - pushed from the fall within the elevator. Phase 1 - should have been pushed from the van
I can go on with all of them
Inconsistencies with this method: Yusif should have been "PUSH"ed from the van into the plane earlier (or at all) in the fall. All of them should have been pushed from the van once they were present in the van. Dom Cobb stated in the elevator in the limbo tower that they needed to come up with their own kick which does lead me to assume it is the PUSH method during the heist.
PULL:
Ariadne: Phase 0 - there is no falling therefore it doesn’t pull them from phase 1 which is the van. Phase 1 - the falling van pulls Ariadne from the elevator (once she is present in the elevator). Phase 2 - Falling from the elevator ceiling to the elevator floor pulls Ariadne from the falling tower (once she is present in the tower).
Inconsistencies with this method:
1) Arther should have been pulled into the van while it was in free fall.
2) It seems they were going to blow up the building prior to the whole needing to go to Limbo so what was that "kick" for? If not, Why did Ariadne jump from the building if the falling tower was pulling her out of that phase anyway? And since Cobb was there by choice and not dream dead like Seido, wouldn't he have been pulled too?.... and if the other way around, why blow up the building if she had to jump from the building to escape limbo anyway and they all knew it? Again, it seems that Cobb knew how to get out of limbo cause he had done it already so he would have known that a kick from the outside would do nothing and therefore no need for explosives... unless used for the "PUSH" method.
Even if both methods worked simultaneously, it doesn't explain away these inconsistencies...What are you're thought on this... Did I miss something?
PULL: The kick happens in the prior or lesser dream state to “PULL” you from the deeper dream state
PUSH: The kick happens in the current dream state to “PUSH” you from the current or deeper dream state back in the lesser dream state (above)
The “PULL” kick is seen when Arthur is pushed from the chair to exemplify how a kick works to Ariadne. The “PUSH” kick is seen moments later when they are exemplifying a timed kick with music (Arthur and Ariadne are in lounge chairs and Arthur is woken up)... we don’t actually see the kick itself here, but the result.
We can look at the heist and apply these two methods.. but either way, it leads to an inconsistency...
PUSH:
Ariadne: Phase 4/Limbo - She jumps from a building in freefall, which gives her a “PUSH” kick into Phase 3...in Phase 3, she is falling from the exploding building, pushing her into Phase 2...where she is falling to the floor of the shaft/floor of the elevator once the elevator crashes into the shaft (they weren’t falling while the elevator was falling because they were being pushed by the elevator... a very different effect due to the way acceleration works in physics)... now she is pushed into the van from the elevator, but the van is falling (free fall which is the type of fall you would lose your breath on, but doesn’t get “PUSH”ed to the plane... in fact none of them do.
Eams: Phase 3 - pushed from the free falling/exploding building. Phase 2 - pushed from the fall within the elevator. Phase 1 - should have been pushed from the van
I can go on with all of them
Inconsistencies with this method: Yusif should have been "PUSH"ed from the van into the plane earlier (or at all) in the fall. All of them should have been pushed from the van once they were present in the van. Dom Cobb stated in the elevator in the limbo tower that they needed to come up with their own kick which does lead me to assume it is the PUSH method during the heist.
PULL:
Ariadne: Phase 0 - there is no falling therefore it doesn’t pull them from phase 1 which is the van. Phase 1 - the falling van pulls Ariadne from the elevator (once she is present in the elevator). Phase 2 - Falling from the elevator ceiling to the elevator floor pulls Ariadne from the falling tower (once she is present in the tower).
Inconsistencies with this method:
1) Arther should have been pulled into the van while it was in free fall.
2) It seems they were going to blow up the building prior to the whole needing to go to Limbo so what was that "kick" for? If not, Why did Ariadne jump from the building if the falling tower was pulling her out of that phase anyway? And since Cobb was there by choice and not dream dead like Seido, wouldn't he have been pulled too?.... and if the other way around, why blow up the building if she had to jump from the building to escape limbo anyway and they all knew it? Again, it seems that Cobb knew how to get out of limbo cause he had done it already so he would have known that a kick from the outside would do nothing and therefore no need for explosives... unless used for the "PUSH" method.
Even if both methods worked simultaneously, it doesn't explain away these inconsistencies...What are you're thought on this... Did I miss something?