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This is the discussion thread for the 2024 United States Presidential and Congressional Elections. Election Day 2024 is on Tuesday, November 5.

Going forward, I'll only post non-election news and discussion in the threads of Joe Biden and Donald Trump.

July 17: USA Today - RNC replay: JD Vance officially accepts VP nomination at [2024] Republican convention

July 18: Donald Trump accepts Republican Party 2024 presidential nomination at the Republican National Convention


PBS | Politifact - Fact-checking Trump’s RNC speech



July 21: NBC News - President Joe Biden drops out of 2024 presidential race [and endorses Kamala Harris

July 22: Associated Press - Live updates: Harris breaks donation record, claims most of the delegates she needs for the nomination




Presumptive 2024 Democratic Party nominee for President Kamala Harris begins speaking at about 9 minutes in.

CNBC - Harris and Biden speak to campaign staff after Democrats top $250 million in contributions, donor pledges [in 24 hours]
In the hours since President Joe Biden announced that he would end his teetering reelection campaign, Harris and the Democratic party have pulled in roughly $250 million in online donations and major donor commitments.

The Democratic fundraising platform ActBlue has processed $106 million in contributions to Democratic candidates since Biden dropped out, according to an automated tracker.

It is not clear yet how much of this money was given to House and Senate campaigns and how much went to the former Biden campaign, rebranded overnight as the Harris’ for President campaign.
USA Today - Kamala Harris’ VP pick: Who’s up and who’s down on her running mate list?

Axios - Biden's exit makes Trump the oldest nominee in U.S. history​

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National Exit Polls (1976-2020)

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CBS News - Kamala Harris hits campaign trail in Wisconsin as likely presidential nominee, touts past as prosecutor

The Independent - Kamala Harris links Trump to Project 2025 in debut rally: ‘Can you believe they put that thing in writing?’
Harris outlines a campaign built around abortion rights, voting rights and making the case against the former president

Wikipedia - Project 2025





Trump’s numbers are pretty stable. It’s that undecideds have been jumping on and jumping off about siding with the Democratic candidate.

Business Insider - Trump pollster is already warning his rattled team that Harris is going to jump ahead in the polls
A Trump pollster warned of a "Harris Honeymoon" but called for calm in an internal memo sent to the rattled campaign.



You heard it here folks. Wind kills birds. Trump stop wind! Trump love birds! (Meanwhile wind power power surpassed coal power in some months of this year.)

Rolling Stone - 'DEI,' 'Colored,' 'Jezebel': MAGA Attacks on Kamala Harris Are Getting Ugly
MAGA Republicans have leveled a slew of racist attacks against Kamala Harris, who is now likely to land the Democratic nomination for president.



The New Republic - J.D. Vance in Serious Trouble After Damning Project 2025 Book Foreword
Donald Trump’s running mate can’t claim he knew nothing about the extremist Project 2025 after this.
As Trump desperately tries to separate his campaign from Project 2025, users on X have noted one big problem: J.D. Vance wrote the foreword to a forthcoming book by the plan’s lead author, Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts.
Vanity Fair - Inside the New Right, Where [Tech Bro and JD Vance Benefactor] Peter Thiel Is Placing His Biggest Bets (2022)
They’re not MAGA. They’re not QAnon. Curtis Yarvin and the rising right are crafting a different strain of conservative politics.

The New Republic - Where J.D. Vance Gets His Weird, Terrifying Techno-Authoritarian Ideas
Yes, Peter Thiel was the senator’s benefactor. But they’re both inspired by an obscure software developer who has some truly frightening thoughts about reordering society.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel - In Ohio, JD Vance implied [Native American] tribes were 'enemy,' and called Indigenous Peoples' Day 'fake'

Associated Press - No, JD Vance did not have sex with a couch
As the Ohio senator sets out on the campaign trail as the GOP’s vice presidential nominee, social media users are making false claims about the contents of “Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis.”



Politico - Sen. Mark Kelly, a Harris veep contender, rips into JD Vance on Ukraine
The two senators are on the opposite end of the spectrum on the issue of Ukraine aid.
Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), a contender to be Vice President Kamala Harris’ running mate, tore into Republican Vice President nominee Sen. JD Vance on Wednesday, saying Vance would “abandon” Ukraine in favor of Russia.

“It’s pretty clear to me you’ve got JD Vance who wants to totally abandon Ukraine, and you’ve got Donald Trump who has been in the past rather pro-Russia and leaned in with Vladimir Putin in ways I would never expect the president to do,” Kelly said in a brief interview with POLITICO. “So again, we have a serious choice to make, and I’d be really concerned about what those guys would do to abandon an ally in favor of an adversary. And that would be a much more dangerous world.”




The Hill - [Hannibal Lecter Actor] Anthony Hopkins ‘shocked and appalled’ by Trump’s Hannibal Lecter remarks



Trump has no respect for the military. Serving a cause higher than one's own self-interest is a concept that doesn't exist to him.

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The Daily Beast - Kamala Harris Is Vetting Two Women on Her VP Shortlist
A team led by former Attorney General Eric Holder reportedly began requesting information Wednesday from a strategic list of governors, legislators and cabinet officials.
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is reportedly on the list—as is Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo, both of whom would make history if selected by Harris.

Whitmer, who is co-chairing Harris’ campaign, has previously said she is not interested in joining her on the ticket.

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz are also on the reported shortlist, as is Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, who won two terms in a state that Trump carried by 26 points in the 2020 presidential election.

Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly, who represents a crucial swing state that Biden won by only about 10,000 votes, is also reportedly being vetted.

The list also included California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who also took himself out of the running, sources told NBC News.

Several Biden Administration officials are also under consideration, including Transportation Sec. Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and Raimondo.

Another name who has previously been floated is retired four-star Admiral William McRaven, who oversaw the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011.

Sources confirmed to CBS News that at least one candidate on the list, whose name was not shared publicly, was not currently serving in government.

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July 25th, 2024, 11:27 am




The Daily Beast - Kamala Harris Is Vetting Two Women on Her VP Shortlist
A team led by former Attorney General Eric Holder reportedly began requesting information Wednesday from a strategic list of governors, legislators and cabinet officials.
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is reportedly on the list—as is Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo, both of whom would make history if selected by Harris.

Whitmer, who is co-chairing Harris’ campaign, has previously said she is not interested in joining her on the ticket.

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz are also on the reported shortlist, as is Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, who won two terms in a state that Trump carried by 26 points in the 2020 presidential election.

Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly, who represents a crucial swing state that Biden won by only about 10,000 votes, is also reportedly being vetted.

The list also included California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who also took himself out of the running, sources told NBC News.

Several Biden Administration officials are also under consideration, including Transportation Sec. Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana, and Raimondo.

Another name who has previously been floated is retired four-star Admiral William McRaven, who oversaw the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011.

Sources confirmed to CBS News that at least one candidate on the list, whose name was not shared publicly, was not currently serving in government.
Robert F Kennedy JR endorsed a more compassionate plan for anyone recovering from addiction like him that would help people build skills. It's a more favorable thing than what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris did, having the system people lock away people for a long time for drugs. Their record on civil rights is a joke. Biden and Harris are a joke. The Democrat party has become a joke.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/j ... -laws.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/maga ... atter.html

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Media Matters - JD Vance said Project 2025 architect Kevin Roberts is "somebody I rely on a lot who has very good advice"

Salon - JD Vance calls QAnon Shaman "a fun guy" in resurfaced video
A clip of Vance at an event in 2023 shows him speaking favorably of one of the Capitol riot poster boys.

Mother Jones - J.D. Vance says he gets bad press because most journalists are “childless adults”
The GOP veep candidate has a thing about people who are not parents.

ABC News - Vance argued for higher tax rate on childless Americans in 2021 interview
Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance advocated for higher taxes on Americans without children in a 2021 interview unearthed by ABC News.

Daily Boulder - Trump Upset That Misogynistic And Racist Attacks On VP Harris Are Backfiring
As Republicans intensify their campaign against Vice President Kamala Harris, they are struggling to settle on a unified line of attack, leaving former President Donald Trump both angry and frustrated.





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CNBC - Obama endorses Kamala Harris as she builds momentum against Donald Trump

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Count up the lies in that statement.

This is all racist whitesplaining bull****.



She has better than most qualifications as:
* elected San Francisco, CA District Attorney (2004-2011)
* elected CA state Attorney General (2011-2017)
* elected CA federal U.S. Senator (2017-2021)
* elected U.S. Vice President (2021-2024)

None of this counts for anything according to white supremacists.









I have Harris in the 250~280 EV range (270 needed to win). Hopefully I can raise the ceiling higher after the VP+convention.

Remember Clinton led the popular vote in 2016 by 2 points and that equated out to 232 EV (before faithless electors). I think right now Harris’s floor is higher than Clinton’s and with a lower ceiling than 2020 Biden’s (306 EV).

The Hill - RFK Jr.’s campaign struggles with Harris in race

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The funny thing is that a chunk of all of Trump's fundraising is being used on his personal legal expenses. :lol:

Slate - J.D. Vance’s Views on Stepparents Are Straight Out of Project 2025
Rather than denigrating these families, policymakers should be supporting and protecting real parent–child relationships.

The Independent - Why calling Trump ‘weird’ is freaking Republicans out
Democrats have started pointing out just how strange the former president and his ilk really are. Ryan Coogan explains why this could be the thing that finally gets under his skin – and might help win Kamala Harris the White House

Donald Trump has now (again) backed away from the presidential debate that was scheduled for the ABC network. Harris apparently will be there whether he shows up or not.

The Daily Beast - Democrats Rent News Homepages to Troll ‘Scared’ Trump
Donald Trump will star as a felon afraid to debate Kamala Harris in homepage ads throughout swing states.









SF Chronicle - RFK Jr. admits in bizarre video [with Roseanne Barr] that he dumped a dead bear in New York’s Central Park

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Daily Kos - Harris wins Democratic nomination—here’s how the virtual vote worked

CNN - CNN - Harris selects Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz to be VP running mate, sources say
JUST IN: Vice President Kamala Harris has selected Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as her running mate, according to multiple sources. They will appear together in their first joint rally in Philadelphia later today before visiting other battleground states this week.
Associated Press - AP Sources: Harris selects [Minnesota Governor] Walz as running mate

Vice President Kamala Harris (Instagram) wrote:I am proud to announce that I’ve asked @walzforgovernor to be my running mate.

One of the things that stood out to me about Tim is how his convictions on fighting for middle class families run deep. It’s personal.

He grew up in a small town in Nebraska, spending summers working on his family’s farm. His father died of cancer when he was 19, and his family relied on Social Security survivor benefit checks to make ends meet. At 17, he enlisted in the National Guard, serving for 24 years. He used his GI Bill benefits to go to college, and become a teacher. He served as both the football coach and the advisor of the Gay-Straight Alliance.

I share this background both because it’s impressive in its own right, and because you see in no uncertain terms how it informs his record. He worked with Republicans to pass infrastructure investments. He cut taxes for working families. He passed a law to provide paid family and medical leave to Minnesotan families.

He made Minnesota the first state in the country to pass a law providing constitutional abortion protections after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, and as an avid hunter, he passed a bill requiring universal background checks for gun purchases.

But what impressed me most about Tim is his deep commitment to his family: Gwen, Gus, and Hope. Doug and I look forward to working with him and Gwen to build an administration that reflects our shared values.

Whether you are a supporter, a volunteer, a donor, a member of our staff, or your name is on the ticket: you are part of the people-powered campaign that is going to defeat Donald Trump.

We are going to build a great partnership. We are going to build a great team. We are going to win this election.

So let’s get to work. Join our campaign at the link in my bio.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walz

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4. Minnesota

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/minnesota
4. Minnesota

CBS News - Minnesota is ranked 6th in the nation for business, a new study finds

Could Tim Walz go from teaching history to being part of it?​ (August 2)
Former classmates and colleagues talk about the teacher and coach who went into politics and is now believed to be on Kamala Harris’s short list for a running mate.
Former students say they don’t remember Walz ever being overly ideological in the classroom, and yet, none were particularly surprised when he first made the jump into public service. The idea to run for office first came to Walz in 2004, he has previously said, after he and several of his students were blocked from entering a political rally for former president George W. Bush because one of the kids was spotted with a John F. Kerry sticker. He won a congressional seat in 2006, and served in the U.S. House of Representatives until after he won the 2018 gubernatorial election.

Before all that, he was the linebacker coach who helped turn around a winless football squad into state champions, while earning the trust of his players.

“I don’t want to be dramatic about it, but he maybe saved my life,” says Daniel Clement, a former linebacker who says he hung out with the wrong crowd before Walz showed him a kind of attention on and off the field he’d never experienced from a teacher before. “I was devoted to him, like, ‘Fine, I’ll keep going to school so I can play for you. I’ll keep training hard so I can try and win for you.’”
And in the mid-’90s, it was Walz who offered to be the first faculty adviser to the newly formed gay-straight alliance.
Labor likes Gov. Tim Walz for vice president — and other labor news • Minnesota Reformer (August 2)

IJR - House Dems Like Tim Walz for Harris VP Pick (August 2)
“Walz was the highest-ranking enlisted soldier in the history of Congress.

House Democrats now tout him as an asset to the Democratic ticket.

“My sentimental favorite is Tim Walz,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (Mass.), the lead Democrat on the Rules Committee. “He was a great member of Congress. The people I know in Minnesota tell me he’s a great governor… But more importantly he’s a good guy. He’s down to earth, he’s the real deal, there’s nothing phony about him, and he calls ‘em as he sees ‘em, and he tells it like it is, and I appreciate the candor.”

Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), who heads the Congressional Progressive Caucus, also favors Walz. She talked of Walz’s record of backing labor unions and working families.

“I want somebody who’s really strongly pro-labor and understands labor, because this is a big part of the working-class agenda and making sure that we win working-class votes,” Jayapal said.

“I want somebody who is totally committed to the agenda that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris fought for, … and then I think it should be somebody who’s really good in some of our mid-Western states. So making sure that we win Wisconsin, Ohio — some of those places. And so that kind of brings me to — I really like Gov. Walz,” she said. “I like the things that he’s been able to do. I like that he’s from a rural town; I like that he’s got a military background.”

“So he would be a great choice,” she added.

Support for Walz didn’t end there.

Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) is believed to be favoring Walz, too. A source told The Hill “she is always especially fond of former House colleagues,” giving a possible nod to Walz.”
Star Tribune - Gov. Walz shares his family’s IVF journey as Democrats look to guarantee access to treatments (March 2024)
They are considering adding protections for fertility treatments to an abortion law passed last year.















The Advocate - JD Vance falsely accuses Algerian Olympic boxer of being transgender & weirdly blames Kamala Harris
It’s the latest eyebrow-raising comment the Republican vice presidential candidate has made.

Without hatred of the 'other' - real or imagined - there is no Republican Party. It's the glue that binds that enterprise together.

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August 3rd, 2024, 2:33 pm






The funny thing is that a chunk of all of Trump's fundraising is being used on his personal legal expenses. :lol:

Slate - J.D. Vance’s Views on Stepparents Are Straight Out of Project 2025
Rather than denigrating these families, policymakers should be supporting and protecting real parent–child relationships.

The Independent - Why calling Trump ‘weird’ is freaking Republicans out
Democrats have started pointing out just how strange the former president and his ilk really are. Ryan Coogan explains why this could be the thing that finally gets under his skin – and might help win Kamala Harris the White House

Donald Trump has now (again) backed away from the presidential debate that was scheduled for the ABC network. Harris apparently will be there whether he shows up or not.

The Daily Beast - Democrats Rent News Homepages to Troll ‘Scared’ Trump
Donald Trump will star as a felon afraid to debate Kamala Harris in homepage ads throughout swing states.









SF Chronicle - RFK Jr. admits in bizarre video [with Roseanne Barr] that he dumped a dead bear in New York’s Central Park
The bear story is funny. Has this nation lost its sense of humor? :lol:


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