Biden of America: The Return of the Democracy

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The votes to codify Roe didn't exist in Congress. Democrats used to have a larger anti-abortion contingent than they do now so that was never getting past the filibuster in the brief window of Jan. 2009-Jan. 2011 when the Democrats held House and Senate majorities.

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That's some nice excuses you got there. You don't try, you don't know what's possible and the Dems didn't try, whilst knowing for decades that the Republicans would jump on the first chance to get rid of Roe v Wade.

Meanwhile, only 26% of Dem voters say the party should renominate Joe Biden in 2024 and voters nationwide gave him merely a 33% job approval rating: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/us/p ... &smtyp=cur

Age and unhappiness with the job that Biden's doing seem to be among the top concerns, as 64% of Dems want a different nominee in 2024, including 94% of those under 30.

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Non-incumbents lose a point or two advantage over incumbents and someone new wouldn't be able to do any more than President Biden is legally able to with Congress the way it is. Same reason Obama couldn't do much especially for about 6 out of his 8 year term as well. You're president with the Congress and Supreme Court you have, not president with the Congress and Supreme Court you don't have or wished you had.



NY Times - Senate Absences Snarl Democrats’ Plans for a Quick Return to Business
With two Democrats testing positive for the coronavirus and a third convalescing after a fall, the Senate floor is at a standstill, underscoring the fragility of the party’s bare-minimum majority.

Politics is the art of the possible. Without the numbers and without the Constitutional authority what the far-right and far-left idealists think is possible is not legally possible. Them's the facts. In states where Democrats have >75% of the legislature like California they get a lot more done, which is similar in states such as Illinois and New York. But those governors would not be able to get anything more done than Biden with the current configuration of the federal legislature. The president has limited powers and limited numbers in the current Congress and a 67% Republican Supreme Court, he's not a king or a god emperor that the far-left and far-right both desire.

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Someone new might have a bigger imagination as to what to do with his presidential powers unde rthe US Constitution. For instance, that person might actually decide to forgive ALL student debt instead of means-testing debt cancellation....just one example.

Wanting to be treated like a human being, having a decent minimum wage, voting rights, having healthcare, not being gunned down in massacres every day, not spending trillions in defence spending for wars in countries most Americans wouldn't even locate on a map, holding police accountable, having a justice system that does not cater to private prisons, etc...those are not far-left ideas or even unreasonable expectations. They're the bare minimum for a functioning society. It's time centrists in the US understood that and it's time they learned that the longer they say that they can't do anything (when they have 2 out of 3 branches of the US government whilst they refuse to put pressure on people like Sinema and Manchin who singleandedly stopped the entire Biden agenda) the fewer people will believe them when it comes to elections because you need to actually and visibly deliver for your voters and scolding them the minute they ask you why you're not doing anything creates apathy. Take some responsibility for the inaction of your bad excuses for politicians: the Dems are in power and they made a bunch of promises and even said how they would stand in the way of progress (Biden would veto M4A if it ever by any miracle arrived on his desk, remember?). Yet, still the Republicans get catered to by the leaders of the Democratic Party when the Dems are in charge and they get what they ask for legislatively and now on top of everything else also through the Courts because they care about power and how to use it once they have it. All because Biden can't (or doesn't want to) get the Dems to get rid of the legislative filibuster, among other things so he and his corporate buddies have an excuse for why nothing gets done. You're proud of that state of affairs? I'd be deeply ashamed.

I think this MEP summed it up nicely:

Are you proud of these weak-willed, incompetent cowards who know only how to punch left because they are too scared to actually fight Republicans and who are rehabilitating and enabling far-right lunatics like McConnell every chance they get? Someone who tells his donors that nothing will fundamentally change is not the man of the hour, certainly not the person anyone needs at this stage. He just wasn't as terrible as Trump, which is a bar so low it could be underground as far as I am concerned. Clearing that bar is not something to be proud of, it should be the bare minimum and shaming people for having actual expectations whilst framing those as 'far left' (and even then, why would that even be a bad thing?) is not how you convince them to vote for you. The people you call far-left aren't even centre-left by most non-US standards.

"Just vote harder in November" ain't gonna solve the abortion issue and it's only being used to fundraise off of people's misery and it's gross. If you think fingerwaging and shaming abortion activists, for instance, the people who did the groundwork of helping Biden win the 2020 election, is a winning strategy, then by all means, continue but you're likely going to be in for a rough election in November. If the corporate donors are the only ones who are not considered fringe in the eyes of the Biden administration then the Biden administration is part of the problem.

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The President and the Democrats aren't the enemy here. They were dealt a terrible hand by the Republicans and the voters, a hand that really started dealing 6 years ago.

No it has nothing to do with corporate donations.

If anything businesses would like abortion and contraception to be legal to make money off it by providing goods and services and not having to give paid family leave time off.

The Republicans are also in conflict with the pharmaceutical industry, from opposition to vaccines to abortion pills and more* in the future.

* Live Science - State abortion bans may limit access to drug used to treat lupus and cancer
LA Times - Post-Roe, many autoimmune patients lose access to 'gold standard' drug
NPR - Major health system stops, then resumes Plan B amid Missouri's abortion ban ambiguity
Gizmodo - The FDA Will Soon Decide Whether to Make a Birth Control Pill Available Over the Counter

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You don't think decisions by Democratic politicians on a host of issues have anything to do with the campaign donations they receive from their corporate donors and that said donors expect a return on investment (be it in the form of deregulation or corproate tax cuts, a corporate infrastructure bill, etc.)? Do you think they give that money out of the goodness of their hearts?

Money in politics is arguably THE most important issue, since it stands in the way of progress on everything (from climate change to gun legislation) and I got news for you: the Democrats (to a lesser extent than the Republicans but still) are such a pro-corporate party precisely because they receive tons of corporate cash.

Update: by the way, seems like the Biden administration is moving forward with the nomination of Chad Meredith, the anti-abortion lawyer, for a lifetime federal judgeship despite the public backlash: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/chad-mer ... 664530?mt8

I mean, you'd have to be out of touch, stupid, malicious or all 3 to do this and it'll likely hurt down ballot Democrats too. Biden used to be anti-abortion so maybe this is just a reflection of what he thinks of the issue. You know what he could do? Not go through with this....

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Justice Department Announces Reproductive Rights Task Force
The Task Force will monitor and evaluate all state and local legislation and enforcement actions that threaten to:
  • * Infringe on federal legal protections relating to the provision or pursuit of reproductive care;
  • * Impair women’s ability to seek reproductive care in states where it is legal;
  • * Impair individuals’ ability to inform and counsel each other about the reproductive care that is available in other states;
  • * Ban Mifepristone based on disagreement with the FDA’s expert judgment about its safety and efficacy; or
  • * Impose criminal or civil liability on federal employees who provide reproductive health services in a manner authorized by federal law.
Politico - Biden admin to pharmacies: Refusing to fill contraception and abortion pill prescriptions could break federal law
The memo reminds 60,000 pharmacies around the country of their obligations under current law.

Business Insider - Student-loan borrowers 'shouldn't have to act as a labor economist' to prove a college misled them on job prospects and loaded them up with debt, Biden's Education Department says
  • * Biden's Education Department unveiled proposals to reform student debt relief for those defrauded.
  • * It plans to broaden the types of school misconduct that make students eligible for debt relief.
  • * Other proposals included reforms to PSLF, and plans to prevent interest capitalization.

ABC News - First on ABC: Mexico to pay $1.5 billion for US border security and processing, source says
The collaboration signifies something of a reset between Mexico and the U.S.

Much like infrastructure 'week', Biden does what Trump don't.

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The Washington Post - Biden could declare climate emergency as soon as this week, sources say
White House officials are scrambling to advance the president’s environmental agenda after talks with Sen. Joe Manchin III stalled

AP source: Biden holds off on climate emergency declaration



NBC News - House votes to protect same-sex marriage in case the Supreme Court rescinds it
The Democratic-controlled chamber sent the bill to the Senate where its prospects are uncertain as it'll require at least 10 Republican votes to pass.

NPR - Bill to protect same-sex and interracial marriage passes overwhelmingly in the House



74% of House Rs voted against federal legislation for interracial and same-sex marriage. That same percentage in the Senate would be 37 R votes against and 13 R votes for OR abstaining...but you know how they love to filibuster so it's not a sure thing.

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CNN - Biden tests positive for Covid-19 and is experiencing mild symptoms

The president just returned from his foreign trip to Saudi Arabia a few days ago. He's been vaccinated like four times and there's a lot of new drugs and treatments available.

195 House Rs (92% of the 211) just voted against federalized contraception access to protect against SCOTUS overreach.

(Alito in the majority for the Hobby Lobby case went along with the idea that contraception is the same as abortion because the plaintiffs did.)

Roll Call 385 Roll Call 385, Bill Number: H. R. 8373, 117th Congress, 2nd Session: Contraception Act

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There's less abortion BECAUSE of contraception access (as well as less people having sex in general over the decades). As usual they don't give a shit about abortion, it's all about control.

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The Washington Post - House OKs bill to protect contraception from Supreme Court
Nearly all adults, 92%, called birth control “morally acceptable” in a Gallup poll in May.
Only 4% of House Rs voted for the federal contraception access protection bill.

Roll Call 385 Roll Call 385, Bill Number: H. R. 8373, 117th Congress, 2nd Session


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I live in an NJ county Biden won in 2020. And Phil Murphy lost in 2021 because of Biden's destructive policies. He is not doing a good job, we had an acceptable President in Trump who put America first, but now we have record inflation, and we were energy independent. He got rid of keystone now gas prices have gone way up. He has welcomed hundreds of thousands of migrants and bigotedly, turning away Cubans who are honestly running from socialism because of how they would vote, and that's so Un-American. And this senile clown occupying the oval office abandoned Americans in Afghanistan that's impeachable. Do people on here actually believe Biden is doing a good job? The man is red pilling, more Americans by the day!

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