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Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 5th, 2019, 10:19 pm
by m4st4
Stockholm Syndrome, the way I see it. Your idol is your monster, and you’re seven?! That can’t be good for anyone’s brain, let alone seven year old’s. I believe the truth is in the grey zone. Wasn’t MJ chemically castrated as a child so that he can keep his voice? That makes all of this even more fucked up.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 5th, 2019, 11:08 pm
by bootsy
m4st4 wrote:
March 5th, 2019, 10:19 pm
Stockholm Syndrome, the way I see it. Your idol is your monster, and you’re seven?! That can’t be good for anyone’s brain, let alone seven year old’s. I believe the truth is in the grey zone. Wasn’t MJ chemically castrated as a child so that he can keep his voice? That makes all of this even more fucked up.
I've heard people ask this so many times in the last few days. I don't think we'll ever know for sure. I keep going back and forth on how I feel. I believe the stories but then when I see where the motivation for this could have started for both accusers and some of the inconsistencies in both accuser's stories I start have some doubts. I still think MJ did something that wasn't quite right but I don't think we'll ever know fully what the truth is even though some have already made up their minds that this happened for sure.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 3:39 am
by LelekPL
It is hypocritical, though, that just because people love his music, they tend to disregard all alleged victims. I mean when Kevin Spacey got accused he got crucified publicly. I'm not saying it wasn't warranted but you don't see the same reaction to Michael.

Maybe it's because he's dead - then again, this was public when he was still alive. Or maybe it's because people are way too forgiving to people they like. I remember watching those singing shows and the judges saying "omg, you're such an amazing person. Your voice is beautiful." Well, one of those statements is true but the first one, you don't really know based on someone's voice :P I'm sure there were serial killers who could sing well.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 4:34 am
by bootsy
LelekPL wrote:
March 6th, 2019, 3:39 am
It is hypocritical, though, that just because people love his music, they tend to disregard all alleged victims. I mean when Kevin Spacey got accused he got crucified publicly. I'm not saying it wasn't warranted but you don't see the same reaction to Michael.

Maybe it's because he's dead - then again, this was public when he was still alive. Or maybe it's because people are way too forgiving to people they like. I remember watching those singing shows and the judges saying "omg, you're such an amazing person. Your voice is beautiful." Well, one of those statements is true but the first one, you don't really know based on someone's voice :P I'm sure there were serial killers who could sing well.
This really isn't it at all. Most people that I've seen and heard that disregard the victims is because they've already denied that they were abused for years and years and have inconsistent stories and in Robson's case has some things that didn't go his way in life that some too convenient to come out with this now. Yeah I'm sure there are some that just say 'he made Thriller' and just dismiss it but most that I've seen and heard aren't thinking like that.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 4:36 am
by LelekPL
I'm not saying all people. But as you mentioned it's a fairly large amount.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 6th, 2019, 1:58 pm
by Cilogy


R. Kelly is a great actor

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 7th, 2019, 2:14 pm
by Artemis
"I Need to Be Careful": Texts Reveal Warner Bros. CEO Promoted Actress Amid Apparent Sexual Relationship

One of the more interesting #MeToo stories. The actress in the center of it, Charlotte Kirk is a huge opportunist and she is not a very sympathetic character. She also comes across as really dumb (like why is she sleeping with Kevin Tsujihara who is a chairman instead of a director or producer?).

There are a lot of moral grey areas with this story and it is quite a wild read.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 7th, 2019, 4:04 pm
by m4st4
bootsy wrote:
March 5th, 2019, 11:08 pm
m4st4 wrote:
March 5th, 2019, 10:19 pm
Stockholm Syndrome, the way I see it. Your idol is your monster, and you’re seven?! That can’t be good for anyone’s brain, let alone seven year old’s. I believe the truth is in the grey zone. Wasn’t MJ chemically castrated as a child so that he can keep his voice? That makes all of this even more fucked up.
I've heard people ask this so many times in the last few days. I don't think we'll ever know for sure. I keep going back and forth on how I feel. I believe the stories but then when I see where the motivation for this could have started for both accusers and some of the inconsistencies in both accuser's stories I start have some doubts. I still think MJ did something that wasn't quite right but I don't think we'll ever know fully what the truth is even though some have already made up their minds that this happened for sure.
Well I just watched his Oprah interview and his voice never matured so I believe it honestly.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 13th, 2019, 12:18 pm
by Artemis
Anyone been keeping up with the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard thing?

It's a pretty wild story and it turns out Heard was the one abusing Depp all along.

Re: Sexual Abuse in Hollywood

Posted: March 13th, 2019, 12:28 pm
by CoolwhipSpecial
Artemis wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 12:18 pm
Anyone been keeping up with the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard thing?

It's a pretty wild story and it turns out Heard was the one abusing Depp all along.
We really have to do something about toxic femininity.