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NY Times - Court Suspends Giuliani’s Law License, Citing Trump Election Lies
The former mayor of New York, once the top federal prosecutor in Manhattan, is temporarily barred from practicing law in the state and faces possible disbarment.

Media Matters - Rudy Giuliani melts down about the suspension of his law license, alleges vast "conspiracy" against him and Trump

The Daily Beast - ‘Infuriated’ Andrew Giuliani Defends Daddy in Weird Parking Lot Rant

The Daily Beast - Almost 900 Secret Service Agents Got COVID Under Trump, Records Show



NY Times - Trump Organization Could Face Criminal Charges in D.A. Inquiry
An indictment of the Trump Organization could mark the first criminal charges to emerge from an investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into Donald J. Trump and his business dealings.

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Can't wait for this to mean absolutely nothing

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Terrorist leader Donald J. Trump says his insurrectionists have been treated unfairly, just like the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin did.

The Independent (U.K.) - Trump says Capitol Riot suspects treated ‘unbelievably unfairly’

The Washington Post - While Trump planted the seed for Jan. 6, others — including Fox News — watered it
A former Fox executive, for example, blames the network





Bound to fail just like the rest of those who sued to get back on social media in the past. A fundraising stunt.


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The Guardian - Top US general warned of ‘Reichstag moment’ in Trump’s turbulent last days
Gen Mark Milley drew comparison to Nazi Germany as Trump tried to overturn election defeat, new book I Alone Can Fix This says
Shortly before the deadly attack on the US Capitol on 6 January, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Gen Mark Milley, told aides the US was facing a “Reichstag moment” because Donald Trump was preaching “the gospel of the Führer”, according to an eagerly awaited book about Trump’s last year in office.
Leonnig and Rucker report that Milley spoke to an “old friend”, who warned the general that Trump and his allies were trying to “overturn the government” in response to Joe Biden’s election victory, which Trump falsely maintains was the result of electoral fraud.

Milley is reported to have said: “They may try, but they’re not going to fucking succeed. You can’t do this without the military. You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with guns.”

Reportedly calling Trump supporters “Brownshirts”, a reference to paramilitaries who served Hitler in Germany in the 1930s, Milley is reported to have believed long before the Capitol attack that “Trump was stoking unrest, possibly in hopes of an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and call out the military”.
NY Magazine - Top U.S. General [Milley] Said Trump Preached ‘Gospel of the Führer’

CNN - 'They're not going to ****ing succeed': Top generals feared Trump would attempt a coup after election, according to new book

The Guardian - Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says
  • Remark shocked [Trump Chief of Staff] John Kelly, author Michael Bender reports
  • Book details former president’s ‘stunning disregard for history’

The Independent - Donald Trump 'kept book of Adolf Hitler's speeches in his bedside cabinet and may have read it for inspiration' (2017)

Business Insider - CPAC stage [later used by Trump] is shaped like a Nordic rune used on some Nazi uniforms (February 2021)

The Beer Hall Putsch, also known as the Munich Putsch was a failed coup d'état by Nazi Party leader Adolf Hitler, Generalquartiermeister Erich Ludendorff and other Kampfbund leaders in Munich, Bavaria, on 8–9 November 1923, during the Weimar Republic. Approximately two thousand Nazis marched on the Feldherrnhalle, in the city centre, but were confronted by a police cordon, which resulted in the deaths of 16 Nazi Party members and four police officers.

Hitler, who was wounded during the clash, escaped immediate arrest and was spirited off to safety in the countryside. After two days, he was arrested and charged with treason

The putsch brought Hitler to the attention of the German nation for the first time and generated front-page headlines in newspapers around the world. His arrest was followed by a 24-day trial, which was widely publicised and gave him a platform to express his nationalist sentiments to the nation. Hitler was found guilty of treason and sentenced to five years in Landsberg Prison, where he dictated Mein Kampf to fellow prisoners Emil Maurice and Rudolf Hess. On 20 December 1924, having served only nine months, Hitler was released. Once released, Hitler redirected his focus towards obtaining power through legal means rather than by revolution or force, and accordingly changed his tactics, further developing Nazi propaganda.


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The Guardian - Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put ["mentally unstable"] Trump in White House
Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy; the documents appear to confirm the Kremlin possesses compromising material on Trump.

Reuters - Putin-linked think tank drew up plan to sway 2016 US election - documents (April 19, 2017)
A Russian government think tank controlled by Vladimir Putin developed a plan to swing the 2016 U.S. presidential election to Donald Trump and undermine voters’ faith in the American electoral system, three current and four former U.S. officials told Reuters.

The Independent (U.K.) - Trump was planning to withdraw US from Nato and ditch South Korea alliance, according to new book

The Washington Post - ‘I Alone Can Fix It’ book excerpt: The inside story of Trump’s defiance and inaction on Jan. 6
At the White House, Trump set the tone for the day with an 8:17 a.m. tweet: “States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!”
Some of those around the president encouraged his fantasy of Pence the hero stepping in to overturn the election. Guilfoyle, referring to the growing crowd on the Ellipse, told him, “They’re just reflecting the will of the people. This is the will of the people.”

Ivanka Trump did not agree and was upset about what attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani and others had been advising her father. At one point that morning, she said: “This is not right. It’s not right.”
Trump called Pence, who was spending the morning at his Naval Observatory residence before heading to the Capitol. Pence again explained the legal limits on his authority as vice president and said he planned to perform his ceremonial duty, as prescribed by the Constitution. But Trump showed him no mercy.

“You don’t have the courage to make a hard decision,” he told Pence.
Ivanka Trump, standing next to Kellogg near a grandfather clock in the back of the room, had a hard time listening to her father badger the vice president to do something she knew was not possible. “Mike Pence is a good man,” she said quietly to Kellogg, the vice president’s national security adviser who was close to Trump.

“I know that,” he replied. “Let this ride. Take a deep breath. We’ll come back at it.”

After hanging up with Pence, Trump went back into the dining room to check on the crowd on TV. Ivanka Trump followed her father and tried to convince him to see the situation rationally. But she was unpersuasive. Trump had given Pence instructions and was hellbent on getting him to follow through.

Trump attacks Pence for not having the 'courage' to overturn the election as the president's supporters storm the Capitol
(January 6, 2021)

Trump equates courage with law breaking or fascism.

The New Yorker - “You’re Gonna Have a Fucking War”: Mark Milley’s Fight to Stop Trump from Striking Iran
Inside the extraordinary final-days conflict between the former President and his chairman of the Joint Chiefs.



The Daily Beast - [Republican House Leader] Kevin McCarthy Rolls Over for Donald Trump, Like a Dog (Op-Ed)
Forget kissing the ring, the implicit point is that McCarthy is performatively licking the bottom of Trump’s shoes (and I’m keeping it clean, here). Trump, not McCarthy, is the leader of the Republican Party. Trump can be the 2024 presidential nominee if he wants. Or he can be the Speaker of the House (assuming Republicans take back the House). Or he could probably get Kevin McCarthy to dress up like Little Bo Peep if he wants. He is the master, and when the master summons you, you go.

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