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Musk needs Trump to make twitter more exciting and bring more MAGA nuts in as active users. But if Trump comes back, his Truth social media will plummet into nothingness, and if he doesn't, with Murdoch taking a clear stance against him, his campaign will go straight to potentially a huge defeat.

But if Trump comes back and starts spreading falsehood and his MAGA army go full racist, Musk has to censor them and that will anger Trump to create backlash against him. And if he doesn't censor them he'll face more ad revenue drop and rise in competition.

It's a swamp that both of them are drowning in and it's hilarious to watch.

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Business Insider - Trump's White House blocked government websites aimed at helping Americans vote, fighting human trafficking, easing homelessness, and stopping fraud, federal records show

Reuters - Trump fights Twitter ban at U.S. appeals court (November 14, 2022)
Former U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday asked a U.S. appeals court to revive his lawsuit against Twitter Inc challenging his permanent suspension from the platform after his supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Lawyers for Trump, a Republican, told the San Francisco-based 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in a filing that the ban from Twitter marked "overtly partisan censorship" and was "contrary to First Amendment principles deeply rooted in American history and law."

His lawsuit seeks compensatory and punitive damages and a court order requiring Twitter to "immediately reinstate" his account that was permanently suspended on Jan. 8, 2021.
Reuters - Trump snubs Twitter after Musk announces reactivation of ex-president's account

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November 20th, 2022, 6:34 am
Musk needs Trump to make twitter more exciting and bring more MAGA nuts in as active users. But if Trump comes back, his Truth social media will plummet into nothingness, and if he doesn't, with Murdoch taking a clear stance against him, his campaign will go straight to potentially a huge defeat.

But if Trump comes back and starts spreading falsehood and his MAGA army go full racist, Musk has to censor them and that will anger Trump to create backlash against him. And if he doesn't censor them he'll face more ad revenue drop and rise in competition.

It's a swamp that both of them are drowning in and it's hilarious to watch.
Didn't democrats say Trump stole the 2016 election when he ran against the worst candidate of my lifetime Hillary Clinton? Our current President and Vice President referred to Trump as an illegitimate President. They did the same thing to President Bush for beating Gore and Kerry, and VP Gore ran to the left of Clinton. They never want to talk about that, do they? Didn't some Bernie Sanders voter start shooting at the capital police and republicans? Joe Biden had a disturbing record on civil rights when he was a senator. How many African American lives did Biden send up the river? And the way he described them on the Senate floor had me lost for words. How many African Americans did Harris ruin while she was Attorney General sending away? People for smoking Marijuana while she smoked pot on the job and laughed about it in an interview. How was Larry Elder treated in 2021 by the California media? He went through racism from the left, and what is with the liberals wearing Che Guevara shirts? He did not like black people and was homophobic.

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Right Wing Watch: “On his way to meet Trump at Mar-a-Lago yesterday, Kanye West was filmed walking through Miami's airport with misogynistic antisemitic white nationalist Christian fascist incel Nick Fuentes.”

Jerusalem Post - [Notorious racist, misogynist, and anti-semite] Kanye West asks to be Trump's vice president in 2024 elections (This shambles idiot won 0.04% of the vote in 2020.)

The Hill - Accountant testifies Trump reported significant tax losses for a decade

The Independent - E Jean Carroll files new rape lawsuit against Trump under NY’s Adult Survivors Act


Associated Press - [Brazilian President] Bolsonaro contests Brazil election loss, wants votes voided

Business Insider - Jair Bolsonaro's son gave Mike Lindell a MAGA hat signed by Trump at event talking about voter fraud (August 2022)

The Guardian - Brazil judge fines Bolsonaro allies millions after ‘bad faith’ election challenge
Head of Brazil's electoral court rejects claim from outgoing president’s coalition that said voting machines malfunctioned

The Washington Post - Trump aides Bannon, Miller advising the Bolsonaros on next steps

There are no 'next steps'. He lost. Military self-coup or an insurrection are what they want for fascist Trump 2.0 and for 2024 in the U.S..

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NY Times - After Court Fight, Lindsey Graham Appears Before Atlanta Grand Jury

NY Times - Justice Dept. Seeking to Question Pence in Jan. 6 Investigation


NBC News - ‘F---ing nightmare’: Trump team does damage control after he dines with Ye and white supremacist Nick Fuentes
The former president's campaign claims he didn't know anything about Fuentes, who joined the rapper under fire for his antisemitic remarks.

Huffpost - Marjorie Taylor Greene Appears To Reassure Fascist Nick Fuentes Trump Will Pardon Rioters

Trump Calls For Kari Lake To Be “Installed Governor of Arizona” – Rolling Stone
Facing intense GOP pressure, Republican strongholds in Arizona are waiting until the last possible moment to certify their election results

They're trying to figure out a way to steal the election for Qari Lake and get away with it.

Extremism on the Menu: Trump’s Dinner With Ye, Milo, and Nick Fuentes | Right Wing Watch

NY Mag - Trump Brought Nazis Into the GOP. DeSantis Won’t Expel Them.

Texas Tribune - Jewish Texans see surge in antisemitism as a precursor to fascism

The Daily Beast - Trump Might Have to Face His Worst Nightmare—a D.C. Jury

Crime number 56? President Trump’s perjury in a Georgia federal court - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

NBC News - Trump doesn't have 'absolute immunity' over efforts to overturn 2020 election, judge says

The Guardian - US courts ruling in favor of justice department turns legal tide on Trump

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NY Times - Oath Keepers Leader Convicted of Sedition in Landmark Jan. 6 Case
A jury in federal court in Washington convicted Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the far-right militia, and one of his subordinates for a plot to keep Donald Trump in power.

Politico - Mark Meadows ordered to testify in Trump investigation
South Carolina’s Supreme Court has ordered former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to testify to an Atlanta-area grand jury investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the election in Georgia.

“We have reviewed the arguments raised by Appellant and find them to be manifestly without merit,” South Carolina’s Supreme Court justices wrote.


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POLITICO Playbook: Trump’s pre-[Georgia] runoff message: Terminate the Constitution
DONALD TRUMP, the former president and the person that polls show is still the most likely GOP presidential nominee in 2024, today on Truth Social called for the suspension of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election, citing false conspiracy theories about election fraud.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote, hours after new details of Twitter's internal moderation deliberations in 2020 were released at the behest of new owner ELON MUSK. (More on that below.)

Every Republican will be asked about Trump's statement. The former president dined with antisemites last week, and now he says the Constitution should be discarded. If you are a Republican who thinks being asked to take a position on this is just some liberal media trap, consider what you would say if BARACK OBAMA or JOE BIDEN tweeted this.
If Trump won 2020 he would've refused to give up power in 2024-25. It would be the same case in 2027-28 if he was president again and alive.

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In his first reaction minutes after the Senate voted to acquit him on both articles of impeachment, Trump tweeted a video showing a mocked-up cover of Time magazine suggesting he would be president “4EVA.”

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People - Donald Trump Jokes He'll Stay President 'Forever' in New Video Endorsing His 2020 Campaign (2019)
The Week - Trump just joked about being president for life — for the 6th time (2019)
NY Mag - Trump Jokes About Staying in Power Indefinitely (2018)

Spoiler alert for the people of the past: It was never a joke. He has no respect for anything other than more money/power for himself.

Constitution.congress.gov: 14th Amendment
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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POLITICO Playbook: Trump’s pre-[Georgia] runoff message: Terminate the Constitution
DONALD TRUMP, the former president and the person that polls show is still the most likely GOP presidential nominee in 2024, today on Truth Social called for the suspension of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election, citing false conspiracy theories about election fraud.

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution," Trump wrote, hours after new details of Twitter's internal moderation deliberations in 2020 were released at the behest of new owner ELON MUSK. (More on that below.)

Every Republican will be asked about Trump's statement. The former president dined with antisemites last week, and now he says the Constitution should be discarded. If you are a Republican who thinks being asked to take a position on this is just some liberal media trap, consider what you would say if BARACK OBAMA or JOE BIDEN tweeted this.
If Trump won 2020 he would've refused to give up power in 2024-25. It would be the same case in 2027-28 if he was president again and alive.

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In his first reaction minutes after the Senate voted to acquit him on both articles of impeachment, Trump tweeted a video showing a mocked-up cover of Time magazine suggesting he would be president “4EVA.”

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People - Donald Trump Jokes He'll Stay President 'Forever' in New Video Endorsing His 2020 Campaign (2019)
The Week - Trump just joked about being president for life — for the 6th time (2019)
NY Mag - Trump Jokes About Staying in Power Indefinitely (2018)

Spoiler alert for the people of the past: It was never a joke. He has no respect for anything other than more money/power for himself.

Constitution.congress.gov: 14th Amendment
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
No offense to you, but Ron DeSantis is the front-runner not sure if you saw the recent polls in PA, Georgia, and Florida and the head-to-head hypotheticals Governor DeSantis wins the race against Biden and Trump in the primaries and general. We don't dislike Trump but are tired of him airing his grievous because that isn't helping reduce inflation and gas prices. A fresh face would do wonders from the top of the ticket down the ballot.

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