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Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 12:55 pm
by Demoph
After rewatching season 1, it seems to me
that there's very little chance that Jon will be the king. In season 1, Eddard has like fifteen opportunities to avoid the war, but he keeps refusing them because of his morality. The show makes very clear he is not fit to rule, and except if they Jon goes through lots of changes in last season, he's bound to fail the same way as Eddard
. Also season 1 is really great, and it seems to me that we've lost a sense of tragedy since the showrunners have stopped following the books. It's been mostly compensated with the scale and directing of some episodes, but overall, season six and seven feels way less tragic especially the terrible storyline of Arya, Sansa and Littlefinger in season 7. I hope the tragedy will come back in the last season, and that it will give lasting and dramatic consequences to the events of season 6 and 7.

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 1:38 pm
by Batfan175
Demoph wrote:
April 21st, 2019, 12:55 pm
After rewatching season 1, it seems to me
that there's very little chance that Jon will be the king. In season 1, Eddard has like fifteen opportunities to avoid the war, but he keeps refusing them because of his morality. The show makes very clear he is not fit to rule, and except if they Jon goes through lots of changes in last season, he's bound to fail the same way as Eddard
. Also season 1 is really great, and it seems to me that we've lost a sense of tragedy since the showrunners have stopped following the books. It's been mostly compensated with the scale and directing of some episodes, but overall, season six and seven feels way less tragic especially the terrible storyline of Arya, Sansa and Littlefinger in season 7. I hope the tragedy will come back in the last season, and that it will give lasting and dramatic consequences to the events of season 6 and 7.
The ending will be bittersweet. Martin's no nihilist and so the chances of an entirely unhappy ending are slim to zero.

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 5:14 pm
by Demoph
Batfan175 wrote:
April 21st, 2019, 1:38 pm
Demoph wrote:
April 21st, 2019, 12:55 pm
After rewatching season 1, it seems to me
that there's very little chance that Jon will be the king. In season 1, Eddard has like fifteen opportunities to avoid the war, but he keeps refusing them because of his morality. The show makes very clear he is not fit to rule, and except if they Jon goes through lots of changes in last season, he's bound to fail the same way as Eddard
. Also season 1 is really great, and it seems to me that we've lost a sense of tragedy since the showrunners have stopped following the books. It's been mostly compensated with the scale and directing of some episodes, but overall, season six and seven feels way less tragic especially the terrible storyline of Arya, Sansa and Littlefinger in season 7. I hope the tragedy will come back in the last season, and that it will give lasting and dramatic consequences to the events of season 6 and 7.
The ending will be bittersweet. Martin's no nihilist and so the chances of an entirely unhappy ending are slim to zero.
Tragedy isn't necessarily nihilist. It can be bittersweet. Like the Godfather.

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 5:45 pm
by Nomis
I think it will be bittersweet. I really don't expect a full on nihilistic ending, nor a very optimistic one.

I wonder if the end will be guessed before the final episode airs or that there's going to be a twist in the final episode.

I remember when I saw TDKR for the first time in theatre that the moment
Alfred told Bruce his fantasy of seeing Bruce somewhere in a café, knowing he's going to be all right. I mean right then and there I knew that was how the film was going to end. But Nolan so expertly made me entirely forget about that until I saw the ending. Since I guess the end of Game of Thrones is going to be something very fitting to the overall story they're telling. I anticipate a same sort of situation tbh.

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 6:47 pm
by FuturePast
Purely speculation but just in case
I don't believe the Bran=Night King theory is right, but I do think time travel will play a major role in the conclusion. They didn't introduce this game-changing concept just to reveal Hodor's origin

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 7:15 pm
by Batfan175
Now Where Was I ? wrote:
April 21st, 2019, 6:47 pm
Purely speculation but just in case
I don't believe the Bran=Night King theory is right, but I do think time travel will play a major role in the conclusion. They didn't introduce this game-changing concept just to reveal Hodor's origin
Well
it was also the only way to confirm R+L=J
. It might but does not have to play into the ending at this stage.

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 10:05 pm
by FuturePast
Spectacular episode. A much-needed step up from the premiere.

Coster-Waldau was amazing. They're really saving all the Cersei story for the last 3 episodes huh ?

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 10:10 pm
by PowerDump
Now Where Was I ? wrote:
April 21st, 2019, 10:05 pm
Spectacular episode. A much-needed step up from the premiere.

Coster-Waldau was amazing. They're really saving all the Cersei story for the last 3 episodes huh ?
That’s what I’m guessing but I’m wondering if it’s going to be that straightforward. Is there all this buildup for one battle or does the Night King have another plan and will appear in later episodes?

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 10:19 pm
by MyCocaine
This show is slowly morphing into a piece of fan fiction.

Tormund, Brienne and Lyanna saves the day despite the lazy writing.

Re: HBO's Game of Thrones

Posted: April 21st, 2019, 10:25 pm
by 4N Legend
Some weird writing but overall that was so great