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Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 8th, 2019, 4:11 pm
by Batfan175
On twitter someone said that someone should ask the great directors currently working about Disney's decision to essentially move the Fox catalog into their vault forever instead of asking them about stupid superhero movies and I agree. I'd like to know what directors like Scorsese and Nolan have to say about that.

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 8th, 2019, 4:22 pm
by Demoph
"Someone" is Matt Zoller Seitz, one of the most important critic in USA today, he's not just a random person on twitter.

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 17th, 2019, 1:17 pm
by Master Virgo
Notable 2019 movies by Fox


The Kid Who Would Be King = flop
Alita: Battle Angel = flop
Dark Phoenix = flop
Ad Astra = flop
Terminator: Dark Fate = flop
Ford v Ferrari = so far flop zone

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 17th, 2019, 3:50 pm
by Demoph
Correction:
Ad Astra: a film better than anything Disney ever makes.

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 17th, 2019, 3:54 pm
by LelekPL
He's talking about financial performance, not quality. Obviously Ford v Ferrari is great and will probably break even in the end and Ad Astra is arguably really good.

But these films haven't really lit up the box office in any way which is a shame when it comes to those two films but quite predictable considering the state of cinema going audiences today.

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 17th, 2019, 4:01 pm
by Artemis
is disney purposefully downplaying the fox films in terms of marketing and not allocating the resources to help these films do well?

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 17th, 2019, 7:56 pm
by anikom15
Artemis wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 4:01 pm
is disney purposefully downplaying the fox films in terms of marketing and not allocating the resources to help these films do well?
Why would they do that?

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 17th, 2019, 8:14 pm
by Artemis
anikom15 wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 7:56 pm
Artemis wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 4:01 pm
is disney purposefully downplaying the fox films in terms of marketing and not allocating the resources to help these films do well?
Why would they do that?
Guessing to eventually shutter the Fox brand? It's been rumored that Disney is letting directors take a pick at what Fox films to remake and on top of that the reports of Disney putting Fox titles in the vault us troubling too.

Wondering how next year will look like.

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 18th, 2019, 2:01 am
by anikom15
Artemis wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 8:14 pm
anikom15 wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 7:56 pm
Artemis wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 4:01 pm
is disney purposefully downplaying the fox films in terms of marketing and not allocating the resources to help these films do well?
Why would they do that?
Guessing to eventually shutter the Fox brand? It's been rumored that Disney is letting directors take a pick at what Fox films to remake and on top of that the reports of Disney putting Fox titles in the vault us troubling too.

Wondering how next year will look like.
They can do that without purposefully losing money on films with sunk costs.

I’ve heard a lot of conspiracy theories on why there have been so many box office failures lately. It’s simply because movie tickets are too expensive. If people go to the movies, it’s as a family, and it’s not every week, so it is going to be blockbusters of popular IP, i.e. Disney films.

Re: Disney owns 21st Century Fox Entertainment

Posted: December 18th, 2019, 2:30 am
by Artemis
Yes that is definitley a huge reason why. However I still wouldn't underestimate marketing. Recent examples is Knives Out which killed it on that front and now on it's way to getting over 5x its budget at the BO.