Nolan Fans

Batfan175 wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 1:11 pm

Plus, there are lots of Joker stories where the Joker is not really sophisticated in what he's trying to do

yeah and those aren't the good ones

I didn’t hate it. But I didn’t like it either.

Beautiful imagery, set design, amazing score, costume design was on point, and the overall aesthetics were great. But the core of the film felt hollow. It was trying to say something but it never really said it. It’s a shell of a film. All the right pieces are there but there is no thematic depth.

If someone with more substance had written the script, it would have been fantastic.

This feels like a missed opportunity to make a truly great film.

I think that the way they chose to structure the film,

uhm i was supposed to see this today but i kinda forgot so maybe tomorrow or monday

Ruth wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 4:37 pm

uhm i was supposed to see this today but i kinda forgot so maybe tomorrow or monday

just watch hustlers again if you really want a scorsese inspired movie that is set in new york and has a "fuck the rich" message.

Nomis wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 3:35 pm

I think that the way they chose to structure the film,

to make it all straight from Arthur's point of view who is a very unreliable lead, it makes it difficult to find something trustworthy and substantial I guess. It's open to interpretation for the most part if not for the entire thing so I think that makes it difficult for people to really hook onto it. I mean, Arthur is not exactly mentally stable and he does pretty damn horrible things lol

Yeah I can totally see what you mean. It just didn't work for me. I think if the script had a few more edits it could have been a very impactful movie.

Allstar wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 12:25 am

Disney+'s solo2001 wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 12:09 am

Did you see it and like it?

visually it was interesting but it was kind of a boring movie

The obvious symbolism in this is hilarious Todd Phillips really thought he did something lmao

i did a twitter thread for the interested:

https://twitter.com/metaplexmovies/stat ... 860356609

i also located a review from the great David Sims (co-host of the v popular blank check podcast) that echoes my thoughts down to a science, although i only discovered it a bit ago:

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... ix/599215/

i wish i connected to joker as a movie about the incalculable triggers of violence in our world but instead i sat mostly bored. i wasn't pressed, provoked, or incited. just... bored. just to be clear: i don't think the movie is "saying" anything "dangerous," it's more that it doesn't have anything to say. it's vacant. which 1.) makes it uninteresting anyway but 2.) lets the undesirables of the world read the movie however they want.

PS, there's *plenty* of movies that share this structure and manage to pack serious thematic resonance, from the obvious scorsese movies to the player (yes the player) to nightcrawler, all of which are masterpieces. even gone girl.

&& lmao artemis.


-Vader

Seeing artemis and vader makes me loving this movie (and mr. Todd) even more <licks his fingers>.

Artemis wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 5:13 pm

Ruth wrote: ↑

October 5th, 2019, 4:37 pm

uhm i was supposed to see this today but i kinda forgot so maybe tomorrow or monday

just watch hustlers again if you really want a scorsese inspired movie that is set in new york and has a "fuck the rich" message.

yes but how else would i financially support todd phillips?