Re: Star Wars: Episode IX (2019)
Posted: January 5th, 2017, 3:09 pm
Ethics are for lawyers and people with morals. This is the entertainment business!
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i agree with this, mostlyCrazy Eight wrote:My problem stems less from ethics than it does from my appreciation for acting as a craft. Carrie Fisher isn't around to give another performance, so Carrie Fisher can't give another performance. Cheap imitation is hollow.Master Virgo wrote:I don't see why CGI is disrespectful, and I don't see any other solution. This film will be made almost 3 years after Rogue One. Chances are the technology has improved quite a bit by then.£
They can use her character's off-screen death as enormous motivation for the main characters in IX. Seeing her impact play a big role is more respectful than a resurrection.Master Virgo wrote:I find not giving the character a proper send off more disrespectful. I'm not a fan of Furious films, but what they did with Paul Walker using a combination of double actors and CGI was great and they did right by both the actor and the character.£
I agree. Reuniting with Luke is in EpVIII and the confrontation with Kylo in EpIX so I can see that this is very difficult for them to find a solution for.Crazy Eight wrote:You must've missed the ethics debate that's been stirring post-Tarkin.Master Virgo wrote:I don't see why CGI is disrespectful, and I don't see any other solution. This film will be made almost 3 years after Rogue One. Chances are the technology has improved quite a bit by then.£
My problem stems less from ethics than it does from my appreciation for acting as a craft. Carrie Fisher isn't around to give another performance, so Carrie Fisher can't give another performance. Cheap imitation is hollow.
I don't think she needs to die on-screen for it to be impactful or "satisfying". If her off-screen death is what motivates Luke and Kylo's actions in IX (ie: maybe it's the motivating factor for why Kylo switches sides), and maybe she has a brief bit of "poetic mirroring" where her last message is a hologram to Kylo that's like, "Help us, Ben; you're out only hope", then I think it'd add A LOT of weight and meaning to IX at it's core.Nomis wrote:I agree. Reuniting with Luke is in EpVIII and the confrontation with Kylo in EpIX so I can see that this is very difficult for them to find a solution for.Crazy Eight wrote:You must've missed the ethics debate that's been stirring post-Tarkin.Master Virgo wrote:I don't see why CGI is disrespectful, and I don't see any other solution. This film will be made almost 3 years after Rogue One. Chances are the technology has improved quite a bit by then.£
My problem stems less from ethics than it does from my appreciation for acting as a craft. Carrie Fisher isn't around to give another performance, so Carrie Fisher can't give another performance. Cheap imitation is hollow.
Fisher gave permission for using a CG Leia in Rogue One so I figure Disney will say she would also have been ok with them CGing her in EpIX... But i'd rather have them recast her than that. If it can be done well, having her death happening off screen but I don't see how that can be a satisfactory end for Leia...
Hmm, sounds like something Abrams would do.Crazy Eight wrote:I don't think she needs to die on-screen for it to be impactful or "satisfying". If her off-screen death is what motivates Luke and Kylo's actions in IX (ie: maybe it's the motivating factor for why Kylo switches sides), and maybe she has a brief bit of "poetic mirroring" where her last message is a hologram to Kylo that's like, "Help us, Ben; you're out only hope", then I think it'd add A LOT of weight and meaning to IX at it's core.