The Batman (2022)
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So I remember she gave a statement like this a few years ago when sites ran, the same way Twitter has with the obvious sellable headline that Nolan himself told her she was too "urban"; just couldn't find the interview.
Also, this story has been trending for like 2 days now, it is probably not what Kravitz wanted. Either way, hope everyone on Nolan's team learned a lesson and became more open and less ignorant...and also, I hope her post silences a lot of the crazy talk coming out of twitter.
Being a "traditionalist" (whatever that means, sounds like being part one of those settler death cults from the 19th century) is an absolutely ridiculous and shameful way to frame any of this. I think Tenet did a lot to improve the diversity in Nolan's filmography, but like almost all the major white big boy auteurs (looking at all of them: Scorsese, Fincher, Coens, Anderson (both), even Reeves) are making attempts, but need to do better. The reason this story gets so much traction every time it comes up is that Nolan is powerful, and the idea that a someone with that much power would put up roadblock based on race is very ugly notion.
As far as all of us, defenders of the faith, Nolan is big boy...he doesn't need us storming the breaches everytime someone says something bad about him on twitter, lets chill out.
Haven't seen the Batman yet, was hoping Virgo would hold my hands through it, I hear there is sexy stuff...
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So like, The Batman, how bout that score…
Wow, when did you become this much more nuanced and articulate? I'm so proud of you, babes.A Borges man wrote: ↑March 8th, 2022, 11:42 pmSo I remember she gave a statement like this a few years ago when sites ran, the same way Twitter has with the obvious sellable headline that Nolan himself told her she was too "urban"; just couldn't find the interview.
Also, this story has been trending for like 2 days now, it is probably not what Kravitz wanted. Either way, hope everyone on Nolan's team learned a lesson and became more open and less ignorant...and also, I hope her post silences a lot of the crazy talk coming out of twitter.
Being a "traditionalist" (whatever that means, sounds like being part one of those settler death cults from the 19th century) is an absolutely ridiculous and shameful way to frame any of this. I think Tenet did a lot to improve the diversity in Nolan's filmography, but like almost all the major white big boy auteurs (looking at all of them: Scorsese, Fincher, Coens, Anderson (both), even Reeves) are making attempts, but need to do better. The reason this story gets so much traction every time it comes up is that Nolan is powerful, and the idea that a someone with that much power would put up roadblock based on race is very ugly notion.
As far as all of us, defenders of the faith, Nolan is big boy...he doesn't need us storming the breaches everytime someone says something bad about him on twitter, lets chill out.
Haven't seen the Batman yet, was hoping Virgo would hold my hands through it, I hear there is sexy stuff...
I mean Racism bad, right? "Traditionalism" stupid, right?Master Virgo wrote: ↑March 9th, 2022, 2:57 amWow, when did you become this much more nuanced and articulate? I'm so proud of you, babes.A Borges man wrote: ↑March 8th, 2022, 11:42 pmSo I remember she gave a statement like this a few years ago when sites ran, the same way Twitter has with the obvious sellable headline that Nolan himself told her she was too "urban"; just couldn't find the interview.
Also, this story has been trending for like 2 days now, it is probably not what Kravitz wanted. Either way, hope everyone on Nolan's team learned a lesson and became more open and less ignorant...and also, I hope her post silences a lot of the crazy talk coming out of twitter.
Being a "traditionalist" (whatever that means, sounds like being part one of those settler death cults from the 19th century) is an absolutely ridiculous and shameful way to frame any of this. I think Tenet did a lot to improve the diversity in Nolan's filmography, but like almost all the major white big boy auteurs (looking at all of them: Scorsese, Fincher, Coens, Anderson (both), even Reeves) are making attempts, but need to do better. The reason this story gets so much traction every time it comes up is that Nolan is powerful, and the idea that a someone with that much power would put up roadblock based on race is very ugly notion.
As far as all of us, defenders of the faith, Nolan is big boy...he doesn't need us storming the breaches everytime someone says something bad about him on twitter, lets chill out.
Haven't seen the Batman yet, was hoping Virgo would hold my hands through it, I hear there is sexy stuff...
...maybe I'm just a Virgo simp?
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Amazing score.
Overall really great, the first half of the movie is borderline perfect in fact, but eventually, it crumbles under its own ambition. There ends up being too much material to chew with and becomes two movies squished into one. In hindsight, I'm realizing just how good Nolan was with editing the script into something concise here.
The art direction is absolutely gorgeous, Frasier did wonders here too with the camerawork. Pattinson's fresh portrayal not as some exuberant Bruce but as a socially awkward loner feels amazing here, and as the Batman, his awkward lingering and eye movements add really good tension to the scenes. Turturro, Farrell, and Kraviz are all also fantastic.
The art direction is absolutely gorgeous, Frasier did wonders here too with the camerawork. Pattinson's fresh portrayal not as some exuberant Bruce but as a socially awkward loner feels amazing here, and as the Batman, his awkward lingering and eye movements add really good tension to the scenes. Turturro, Farrell, and Kraviz are all also fantastic.
^ I thought the EXACT same thing like halfway through the movie; How good is fucking Nolan at molding and editing this shit to give us the juiciest, tastiest bits? This film just made me wanna watch Nolan’s trilogy immediately. It’s definitely not a bad movie, and for sure the 4th best Batman in my opinion, but it ain’t got nothing on the holy trilogy.
Last comment on this, I hope Nolan doesn’t get mad at Kravitz for this (that would be pathetic on his part) because I would like to see her work with him in the future. She was fucking amazing in this, def the MVP of the movie for me and the one clear aspect I can say is better than Nolan’s take right away, Selina and her chemistry with Batman. My favorite on screen Selina instantly. To say anything else is better than Nolan’s take would be silly after one movie, well the fight choreography too.
My initial reaction it’s very good but not amazing movie. It has some issues.
My initial reaction it’s very good but not amazing movie. It has some issues.
Yeah, I can't really think of someone in film circles that people just desperately want to cancel/take down like Nolan, and it's so bizarre bc the guy is almost entirely unproblematic in every way. So many fake outrageous scenarios sparked by clickbait. Like the user said earlier, Nolan's a big boy, he can handle himself.
I fully agree though that whoever said it about Kravitz was entirely out of line and should be embarrassed/face punishment of some kind.
As for this movie, I'm with most of the people here. It's a good movie. Looks amazing, acting/performances all around are excellent, etc. There's just no emotional hook and the story leaves a lot to be desired. Anyone genuinely saying this is the best movie with Batman in it has some serious recency bias.
I fully agree though that whoever said it about Kravitz was entirely out of line and should be embarrassed/face punishment of some kind.
As for this movie, I'm with most of the people here. It's a good movie. Looks amazing, acting/performances all around are excellent, etc. There's just no emotional hook and the story leaves a lot to be desired. Anyone genuinely saying this is the best movie with Batman in it has some serious recency bias.