Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (2017)

All non-Nolan related film, tv, and streaming discussions.
Post Reply
shauner111
Posts: 3728
Joined: June 2011
Mark me down for 6.5/10.
User avatar
Oku
Posts: 3759
Joined: May 2012
Master Virgo wrote:NFometer: 85% [↓ 2%]
Based on the Ratings of 30 Members
Average Score: (8.1/10) [↓ 0.2]




Positive

ArmandFancypants (9.5/10)
The Taxman (9.5/10)
m4st4 (9/10)
Michaelf2225 (9/10)
AhmadAli95 (9/10)
natalie (9/10)
Nomis (9/10)
Ruth (9/10)
Baniac (9/10)
JAWS_Fan17 (9/10)
elemunt (9/10)
Cilogy (9/10)
CoolwhipSpecial (9/10)
Allstar (8.7/10)*
antovolk (8.5/10)
07212017 (8.5/10)*
Panapaok (8.5/10)
BlairCo (8.5/10)
IWatchFilmsNotMovies (8.5/10)
Sanchez (8.5/10)
spade (8/10)
Benzilla (8/10)
Law (8/10)
Bacon (7.7/10)




Mixed to Positive

Pioneerr (7/10)
Batfan175 (7/10)
Thedarknight628 (6.5/10)




Mixed

mosh89 (6/10)




Mixed to Negative

MagnarTheGreat (4.5/10)




Negative

Tourmie (1/10)*





£
Are you really going to count that Tourmie's rating? :shock:

I don't see how you can rate this film a 1/10 and not be trolling...
User avatar
atilasantos
Posts: 2610
Joined: June 2012
Biribiri wrote:
The casino scene was a total waste of time, it would be much better to replace it to some Kylo training. Snoke was a huge wasted character, died like some b-side without any information of his past. Luke behavior of why he chose to be isolated (even though he gave a map to locate him) was not good. Leia floating in space.... no words.
After thinking about it, i'd give the movie a 6.5/10. If SW IX answers all the questions this movie didn't, i will rethink about raising its rate.
Last edited by Master Virgo on December 18th, 2017, 12:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Spoiler
User avatar
Master Virgo
Posts: 13506
Joined: February 2011
The fella is not a noob, so she or he's allowed to vote however she/he likes. Many people vote based on how much they like or dislike stuff. They don't put into factor the quality of acting or cinematography, etc. And that is completely understandable.£
MyCocaine
Posts: 3395
Joined: September 2013
Location: Copenhagen
Scores high as 9.5 is every bit as suspicious as the lowest rating.
User avatar
DoubleD
Posts: 17534
Joined: May 2011
8.5/10
User avatar
Michaelf2225
Posts: 3501
Joined: October 2014
Location: ny but philly has my <3
I think this film works for me overall for two reasons:

1. I care about the characters
2. It does new things with the plot that we haven't really seen in a Star Wars movie before

Rogue One has the second part (sort of), but misses the first part. TFA has the first part, but (mostly) misses the second part. Honestly, I think its safe to say that no Star Wars film of the Disney-era has really gotten every aspect right the way Empire did, but then again that's one of the great adventure films of all time.

The Last Jedi may not have the narrative propulsion that TFA does, but on an individual scene basis, I'm far more invested in what it has to say - the scenes are at times (extremely) loosely connected from a plot standpoint, but unlike with Rogue One, I'm already invested enough that I don't really care. And its not like Kasdan's scripts are always logically connected either, he's just much better at hiding it.
m4st4
Posts: 55632
Joined: May 2010
Tourmie gave the movie 0/10, that’s not a score. Is he willing to raise it to 1/10?

Also, did Biribiri just post that and did atilasantos quote it, without spoilers?

Image
:facepalm:
m4st4
Posts: 55632
Joined: May 2010
User avatar
Nomis
Posts: 19209
Joined: June 2012
Location: stuck in 2020
I think it made sense for the worlds we got to see being so compact. It worked on a level that no one was coming to help the Resistance. They were isolated. Not to forget that I think Rian wonderfully uses all the different faunas. For instance, we see where Chewbacca, Luke and Rey get their food from on Luke's Island. The crystal foxes serve a purpose on Crait for the characters etc. I really appreciated that and the designs were wonderful. Same goes for the tech designs, I loved the holograms being a mix of modern and old technology.
As for characters being so passive, doesn't that make total sense when listening to Rose's words on saving what you love, not destroying what you hate? Yes, most characters are being passive but that's basically the point of the Resistance surviving isn't it? Instead of head on attacking the First Order, they flee. It also comes down to Rey "just lifting rocks" and I think the reason she's so absent in the finale is for her to do just that and to afterwards shut the door on Kylo, literally as well.
Canto Bight and the grey area:
I think the Canto Bight sequence has cause to be just by showcasing how the people of the Galaxy make profits from the war. It's not as black and white as the battles between the First Order and the Resistance make out to be. We got a little bit of this grey area in Empire Strikes Back with Lando betraying our heroes at first but making the choice to redeem himself later on. Hell, we even get Rey just going down that cave, not resisting the dark side of the Force Luke was so frightened off. I think it works by showing us this grey area in Galaxy society as well as in the Force and it's users. Not to forget that it's also heavily connected to the last scene and that comes down to Rey basically being one of those kids too.
I also think Holdo was right by withholding her plans from Poe. To me it does make sense because he is a hothead and he does riot when Holdo is getting ready to evacuate to Crait. On top of that, Leia is the one who truly paves the way for Poe to become a leader, she trains him, Holdo does so as well but in her own way. Leia's last line about "What are you looking at me for, follow him." makes perfect sense, I think the best thing about that is that smile afterwards. She has passed on the torch. More on Leia, she also has a connection with Kylo before the accident and I loved her using the Force to return to the ship. I also think this was one of her best performances of Leia, if not her finest work. Hamill aces it as well. He's a multilayered character, now more so than ever and he just balances it so wonderfully. They were both fantastic.
Post Reply

Return to “Movies & TV”