m4st4 wrote:Halloween II by Rob Zombie dou... probably my favorite Halloween movie. Everything. Just. Clicks. From the brutal opening, it's his nightmare entirely... Director's Cut I believe is the only version anyone should watch.
Yeah, outside of John Carpenter's 1978 film this is easily the best of the franchise (and I'm a big fan of the series). It's going to take years for the masses to see that though. And like Comptonterry, I'm not a fan of his 2007 remake, but it paved the way for the sequel, so I've come around to it ever so slightly.
The message is heavy-handed, simple, and straight-forward but it's a pretty incredible change of pace for the recent spate of Disney animations. Instead of focusing on traditional romantic love bullshit it chooses to tell a pretty powerful story about two female characters (a mother and daughter), with the appropriate amount of magic thrown in. Frozen does something similar.
Other than that, I simply didn't find it as entertaining or amusing as other recent Disney work. It lives and dies within it's emotional narrative.
-fuck you Keegan
-also I used narrative because it sounds cooler than "story"
Well shot, some impressive battle scenes and is watchable overall. The absurd amount of Hollywood stars popping up for 5 minutes (or less) over the film's 180 minute running time also makes it a bit difficult to become engrossed in any of the characters and keeps any potential drama at a distance. The whole thing really just feels like you're watching a history book being performed in front of you. Still, it's not boring. 3/5
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The message is heavy-handed, simple, and straight-forward but it's a pretty incredible change of pace for the recent spate of Disney animations. Instead of focusing on traditional romantic love bullshit it chooses to tell a pretty powerful story about two female characters (a mother and daughter), with the appropriate amount of magic thrown in. Frozen does something similar.
Other than that, I simply didn't find it as entertaining or amusing as other recent Disney work. It lives and dies within it's emotional narrative.
-fuck you Keegan
-also I used narrative because it sounds cooler than "story"
Not to be "that guy" but there's an actual marked difference between "narrative" and "story" in the same way there's a difference between "plot" and "story." Narrative is more about assembly and structure, story is the full-length version of what's represented in your mind. The "story" of a film, or book, isn't 'in' the film or book. It's "in" your mind. Your brain absorbs all the information your senses have collected for you into a pattern that represents a tangible full thing. The "plot" is how the 'story" is communicated to your brain. The "narrative" is the accumulation of the devices the "plot" uses to accomplish that goal.
I'm trying to figure out a more convoluted way to explain the differences between story, plot, and narrative than Vader, but I'd be hitting Rohan levels of incoherence.
Crazy Eight wrote:I'm trying to figure out a more convoluted way to explain the differences between story, plot, and narrative than Vader, but I'd be hitting Rohan levels of incoherence.
To be fair, it's a pretty convoluted idea in general.
I truly believe this is one of the best animated films Disney has churned out, if only because of the perfect voice casting (Eartha Kitt and David Spade are just fantastic in this) and clever comedic writing. Aside from the comedy itself which is simultaneously childish and mature, as well as a combination of slapstick and meta humor it's one of the few Disney animations that humanizes the villains to a delightfully amusing degree. It's full of really smart anachronistic comedy, which is something that has traditionally worked really well in Disney films.
The message is heavy-handed, simple, and straight-forward but it's a pretty incredible change of pace for the recent spate of Disney animations. Instead of focusing on traditional romantic love bullshit it chooses to tell a pretty powerful story about two female characters (a mother and daughter), with the appropriate amount of magic thrown in. Frozen does something similar.
Other than that, I simply didn't find it as entertaining or amusing as other recent Disney work. It lives and dies within it's emotional narrative.
-fuck you Keegan
-also I used narrative because it sounds cooler than "story"
Isn't it a Pixar film? By that standard I'd have expected the review to be a bit harsher but glad you found it enjoyable enough. Lets hope Pixar get their shit together and continue making great animated features instead of Cars or Cars 2.
Strange film, and not as drama filled as the trailers would have you expect. It's really about the growth of two characters, driven by dynamite performances from Binoche and Stewart, with the latter really standing toe-to-toe against the more seasoned Binoche. In fact I'd probably say that Stewart outdid her counterpart.
