MuzzleSuarez wrote:It doesn't just come down to his voice, it comes down to his demeanour (though the stupid voice was the biggest complaint). Knowing that Nolan was going to make a gritty take on Batman, Bale should've upped his game and gained weight. OK maybe he did for Begins but for the sequels he looked awful. Affleck's size is what he should've been aiming for.

When people think of TDK trilogy, no one thinks of Bale (even though he was the godamn protagonist). Now compare Bale to Robert Downey Jr. No one had even heard of Iron Man before him. He carried all of his movies as well as these 2 Avengers movies to multi-billion dollar hits. He became Tony Stark whereas Bale was mocked for the voice (and no, it wasn't mocked in affection).

The hate comes down to his voice. Now, for you..you can say what you want but i disagree. Nolan told him to drop some weight. Was it to fit in the new suit or was it done to portray a more realistic guy who wouldn't have time to train as much as he did before he first put on the cowl? Probably both. And i've heard it was both. Bullshit, when people think of TDK trilogy, they think of Bale. When they think of Dark Knight, sure, they probably think of Ledger but you said trilogy as a whole.

People heard of Iron Man, they just didn't know much about him. Downey was the first guy to play that character and he still is in that position. Batman is bigger and there were a handful of other actors who played Batman before Bale. That's not fair.

The voice is mocked for affection and hate. It's not only YOUR way. A great example would be Will Arnett, who is spoofing Bale's Batman but he LOVES the batgrowl. Loves Bale's version and feels like he's paying tribute to something great. It's his favorite version of the character. It will always be a love/hate thing but make no mistake, it's memorable, it's now iconic even if you dislike it.

Bale gave a great performance as Bruce Wayne. He played three characters and showed a lot of emotion. The writing of his Bruce and his performance, is the closest we have been to the character in live-action. Affleck could NAIL that part of Wayne/Bats, but he's ultimately playing Frank Miller's version. Only 10 years younger than the comic in order to match the story of them all creating the Justice League and meeting each other for the first time. Bale played a much more well-rounded Batman that was almost like a greatest hits of the comics thrown into a real world filter.

His Batman was great in my opinion, and im positive Affleck will beat him in that area. Doesn't mean that he will be a better Wayne just cuz he looks more like a drawn version of Bruce. And even if he does, that won't take away the fact that people fell in love with Bale's version.

SomeFrenchToast wrote:

MuzzleSuarez wrote:Yet this was the more 'praised' part of his performance because the Batman side became a laughable meme. Have you seen the CollegeHumor Batman videos on youtube? They're all pretty vicious and they are all rooted in Bale's throat cancer hockey pads voice.

Yeaaah sooo by this logic every parody of every classic movie ever out there just means the overall opinions on said movies are bad

lol where did I even suggest this? We're talking about Bale's Batman here with his puffed out face, his overacting and his throat cancer voice. They took the most noticeable tics of Bale's Batman and mercilessly mocked him. He's now regarded as 'retard Batman'.

RDJ was the heart of all 3 of his Iron Man movies. Bale wasn't for his Batman movies. It's a shame.

MuzzleSuarez wrote:

SomeFrenchToast wrote:

MuzzleSuarez wrote:Yet this was the more 'praised' part of his performance because the Batman side became a laughable meme. Have you seen the CollegeHumor Batman videos on youtube? They're all pretty vicious and they are all rooted in Bale's throat cancer hockey pads voice.

Yeaaah sooo by this logic every parody of every classic movie ever out there just means the overall opinions on said movies are bad

lol where did I even suggest this? We're talking about Bale's Batman here with his puffed out face, his overacting and his throat cancer voice. They took the most noticeable tics of Bale's Batman and mercilessly mocked him. He's now regarded as 'retard Batman'.

RDJ was the heart of all 3 of his Iron Man movies. Bale wasn't for his Batman movies. It's a shame.

You're an idiot. Bale's Bruce was absolutely the heart of Begins and Rises. Knight was split between Harvey and Bruce. Guess who plays Bruce? Christian fucking Bale, that's who. His puffed out face? So when you want it to serve your argument, you say he didn't put on enough weight (totally ignoring the fact that Nolan told him to drop weight to serve the story). But when you want it to serve another thought, you say he had a puffed out face. Yup, im not taking the 'idiot' comment back.

shauner111 wrote:The hate comes down to his voice. Now, for you..you can say what you want but i disagree. Nolan told him to drop some weight. Was it to fit in the new suit or was it done to portray a more realistic guy who wouldn't have time to train as much as he did before he first put on the cowl? Probably both. And i've heard it was both. Bullshit, when people think of TDK trilogy, they think of Bale. When they think of Dark Knight, sure, they probably think of Ledger but you said trilogy as a whole.

People heard of Iron Man, they just didn't know much about him. Downey was the first guy to play that character and he still is in that position. Batman is bigger and there were a handful of other actors who played Batman before Bale. That's not fair.

The voice is mocked for affection and hate. It's not only YOUR way. A great example would be Will Arnett, who is spoofing Bale's Batman but he LOVES the batgrowl. Loves Bale's version and feels like he's paying tribute to something great. It's his favorite version of the character. It will always be a love/hate thing but make no mistake, it's memorable, it's now iconic even if you dislike it.

Bale gave a great performance as Bruce Wayne. He played three characters and showed a lot of emotion. The writing of his Bruce and his performance, is the closest we have been to the character in live-action. Affleck could NAIL that part of Wayne/Bats, but he's ultimately playing Frank Miller's version. Only 10 years younger than the comic in order to match the story of them all creating the Justice League and meeting each other for the first time. Bale played a much more well-rounded Batman that was almost like a greatest hits of the comics thrown into a real world filter.

His Batman was great in my opinion, and im positive Affleck will beat him in that area. Doesn't mean that he will be a better Wayne just cuz he looks more like a drawn version of Bruce. And even if he does, that won't take away the fact that people fell in love with Bale's version.

RDJ had very little to work with. It's his charisma and likability that made the Iron Man trilogy work. It's easy to say that he had leeway just because he's the first actor to play Iron Man but plenty of other actors have played second tier comic book characters too and most of them flop. Look at Ryan Reynold's Green Lantern for example.

And the voice is mostly mocked brutally than for effection. Go to any internet forum other than here or Bale's IMDB board and it's almost unanimous in the hatred for Bale's throat cancer voice.

And you know Bale really fked it up when even Kevin Conroy himself, a fellow actor calls Bale out for his stupid Batman voice in front of his own fans. If it wasn't already decisive, Conroy made it so when in 2011 he asked Bale to stop doing the stupid voice

shauner111 wrote:You're an idiot. Bale's Bruce was absolutely the heart of Begins and Rises. Knight was split between Harvey and Bruce. Guess who plays Bruce? Christian fucking Bale, that's who. His puffed out face? So when you want it to serve your argument, you say he didn't put on enough weight (totally ignoring the fact that Nolan told him to drop weight to serve the story). But when you want it to serve another thought, you say he had a puffed out face. Yup, im not taking the 'idiot' comment back.

The puffed out face wasn't due to his weight (though it's an achievment he managed to make himself look so ridiculous in the sequels with such a leaner body build). It was due to his overacting. Everytime he shouted in his throat cancer voice, his face would contort in that pitiful way with those lips puckered out. Brilliantly mocked by CollegeHumor.

MuzzleSuarez wrote:

shauner111 wrote:You're an idiot. Bale's Bruce was absolutely the heart of Begins and Rises. Knight was split between Harvey and Bruce. Guess who plays Bruce? Christian fucking Bale, that's who. His puffed out face? So when you want it to serve your argument, you say he didn't put on enough weight (totally ignoring the fact that Nolan told him to drop weight to serve the story). But when you want it to serve another thought, you say he had a puffed out face. Yup, im not taking the 'idiot' comment back.

The puffed out face wasn't due to his weight (though it's an achievment he managed to make himself look so ridiculous in the sequels with such a leaner body build). It was due to his overacting. Everytime he shouted in his throat cancer voice, his face would contort in that pitiful way with those lips puckered out. Brilliantly mocked by CollegeHumor.

Mindheist wrote:I see, why is it wrong?

cause the guy doing the video thinks he's fixed some fatal flaw in the film yet doesn't even have a basic understanding of color grading [i'm no expert myself, but i'm not making youtube videos about it either] and is also incredibly pretentious.
to illustrate this let's go through the video step by step!

"But the bleak tone and even bleaker color grading borrowed from the successful Dark Knight films"

none of the dark knight films have bleak color grading. the picture he uses for an example is tinted blue


he also later claims these two shots were graded in a similar way which underlines how little he understands hue/saturation/anything about what he's discussing

"We brought the movie into the lab..."

it may look complex but a waveform monitor and vector scope are literally the most basic editing tools you'll use. and i don't know why those windows on the right are shown as you don't use them for color grading. Also, you color grade film in a lab. iMovie is not a lab.

"...and tried to turn back time and restore some of the films natural color."

this line is the big giveaway. along with him calling his edits "restored" footage he's implying that his look came out of the camera that way and was simply muted & desaturated in post. Dat aint how it works. Raw camera footage is incredibly flat, leaving as much information as possible for to the colorist to work with to design the desired look. Even if a film doesn't have a stylized look it still takes a colorist to achieve it. His "restored" footage doesn't look natural to film or natural to real life.

"We know from set photos the superman costume is actually bright red and blue. The colors were there until post production when they decided on this dark aesthetic."

-Citing what the costumes look like in real life as precedence for what they should look like in the final film implies you're not even aware films are color graded.
-The final look of the film is conceived before post production.
-Shoehorning in the word aesthetic is pretentious.

"It begs the question, which movie would you rather watch?"

so i don't know if anyone has actually taken a second to look at the "restored" clips but they're all disgusting






anything that should actually be grey is blue they all look like they have liver problems (prooobably because the guy just boosted the saturation on an image which has had a stylized look)

again, 500 000 views

EDIT: 650 000 views

Keith wins life.

jeez they all look like they have horrible fake tans

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