"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you"

Christopher's 2005 reboot of the Batman franchise that tells the origins of how Bruce Wayne became Batman.
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kevlevrone wrote:
May 20th, 2019, 6:02 am
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May 17th, 2019, 8:49 am
kevlevrone wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 4:56 am
Hi everyone.
Hi kevlevrone.

Did I just hear an echo?
Hi Muffin. What do you mean by that?
If I have to explain it, then it's not funny.

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Without this scene the third film does not happen because Talia specifically refers to Batman letting her father die as her reason for destroying Gotham City. In fact, every character who dies directly as a result of Batman breaking his one rule (Ra's al Ghul, Two-Face) has an impact on the third film in that their deaths make matters worse for the citizens of Gotham, which once again makes the case for Batman's rule not to kill his adversaries.

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Batfan175 wrote:
September 13th, 2019, 5:05 pm
Without this scene the third film does not happen because Talia specifically refers to Batman letting her father die as her reason for destroying Gotham City. In fact, every character who dies directly as a result of Batman breaking his one rule (Ra's al Ghul, Two-Face) has an impact on the third film in that their deaths make matters worse for the citizens of Gotham, which once again makes the case for Batman's rule not to kill his adversaries.
Yes, people weirdly seem to forget this but I'm glad you noticed. Having seen the film today leaving Ra's to die does make total sense in the moment and given everything Bruce has learned, not to mention it does fit in with the subtle theme of balance that this film has, but it does have drastic consequences later on. What's ironic is that it shows that whilst Bruce has grown a lot, his idea of balance in that moment was pretty flawed and his decision to not be fully honourable did backfire. Some of Ra's did mark itself on Bruce, especially with Bruce directly quoting him in some instances. A lot of cool paralells between hero and villain and part of the theme of the series in making seemingly logical (and perhaps well intentioned) yet morally grey choices coming back to bite you. Hell saving Ra's and leaving Ra's to die in both instances weren't exactly the correct things to do.

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This iconic line from "Batman Begins" encapsulates Batman's moral code and the complexity of his character. It showcases his commitment to justice without compromising his principles against taking a life. The line adds depth to the film's climax, leaving viewers contemplating the blurred lines between heroism and the consequences of one's actions. It remains a memorable moment that reflects Batman's unwavering resolve in upholding his values.

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