Personally, I'm an atheist ... but, i don't think Nolan is an theist .. no way! Still, due to his tragic/philosophical and his style in his movies .. (we can of course know a lot about someone from his vision in his movies especially if he was a director) .. I think Nolan is somehow an agnostic or at least free thinker.
Jesusfreak wrote:JTrue wrote:Mr. Nolan is most certainly a Catholic and his art will be studied in 500 years as that of Michelangelo, Mozart, or other great Catholic artists is studied today. Nolan's work is a representation of the Christian Gospel: Inception is a movie about the Purgatory and the Beatific Vision. Beauty is the kick, heaven consists in the vision of what one longs to behold in union with the Father. One must chose reality over the shades that cause pleasure but are not real. Ariadne is a Virgin Mary figure. Purgative suffering that lasts generations in one dimension but seconds in another is that which purifies the soul and prepares it for the return to it's homeland.
The Dark Knight, however, is perhaps the most perfect Christian allegory ever put to film. It is a grand expression of the political message of the gospel: In the city, there dwells one possible savior - the only just man. But his people seek to kill him. Even the seemingly just Pharisee (Two Face), claims to be the savior, claims to be just, even claims to be the Batman...but will ultimately prove himself a murderer as the Joker. The Joker, evil in the world, gives 2 reasons for his scars: he blames his Father and his Wife. These are the same exact reasons that Adam gives for his sin after falling in the garden. Batman, as the Savior of the city, cannot kill the Joker, even the Joker, he must hold into being. The BAT, a sign of curse and fear, is the CROSS - the repulsive sign that must be lifted up to save people from evil.
Dark Knight Rises is sure to be apocalyptic - expect Bain to wear the mark of the Batman and appear as the savior of Gotham. How far will the Batman (Christ) go to save his people? He will die for them, and he will rise...for the sake of his beloved.
I have a lot more to say about the Catholic implications of Nolan's art - but will leave it here for now.
Thank you, Chris Nolan, for preaching the Gospel in a most palatable way. Keep up the good work, sir.
While subtle and probably subconscious on a level, I believe this holds Truth.
You profoundly misunderstood his work, the Batman series in particular, and it's quite disconcerting to see Nolan be consumed so close mindedly. First off, Incepion's very point and soul is in never knowing, the catharsis taking a leap of faith into not knowing, not holding onto knowing toxically. The pergatory you speak of is lhilosophical and represents all existence, not knowing what comes before or what comes after, of anything, the pergatory is the trap of chasing truth, reality is in acceptance of never knowing. Any belief that Inception supports any one model of reality almost surreally misunderstood the film, especially the ending/final shot. Incepion is about all models of reality being unsure (and thus, any assurance of their existence lies) and reality being in understanding that well never be sure, and accepting life for what it is. Notice the use of faith in the film, first between Cobb and Mal, defining leap of faith as whole commitment, and notice how that leap of faith tears apart Cobb, until he takes a leap of faith at the end to return, and walks away from his totem, his cross for religious purposes. By that contrAst you must see that the film is advocating faith in existence WITHOUT model of reality, and that faith IN a model of reality is the very villain of the film. Being that catholicism is notoriously demanding and constructive, this contrast shows the film to be almost the opposite of a catholic film, it's a film about how fucked any model of the world and constricion of perspective is.
But Inception is purposely complicated, and tho the ending is really clear philosophically it is still is openly ambiguous as a whole, so I understand somehow finding a catholic view of that film simply because it's nature is to allow it. The batman film, however, is direct in its entirely un religious point of view. A film that believes Christ was truly the son of god would have christ walking on water and turning water to wine, thus every single comic book film can be seen Oas innately religIious, EXCEPT for this one. The very soul of this super hero franchise is it comes from the perspective that their are no super heroes, no prophets only humans. It follows a man who recognizes this and aims to create a super hero, a prophet symbolically, despite his own human vulnerability. Almost the entire films conflict and controlling idea revolves around the difficulty of maintaining the symbol of a prophet despite the truth being the prophet is deeply human and normal. The joker aims to prove that there are no prophets, no super people, in the dark knight (that everyone is corruptible) and he SUCCEEDS. Its only through a lie that they defeat the joker, and this lie is shown to have horrible consequences in TDKR. In the dark knight, to protect gotham, Bruce breaks his only rule, then destroys his own symbol in desperation..and we later see it didnt work but only buried the issue, and that the joker very much did defeat Bruce on a human scale, as he begins the film broken because of something the joker did (killed Rachel/forced the batman into exile). It's only In the pit where he rediscovers his humanity and will to live that batman can rise, and he eventually goes on to live as a normal person. It literally is pouring of humanity, not idle worship. And the ending is profoundly un religious, it shows the passing of being Christ to a new Christ, that is innately un religious and again showing that the symbol of batman is just that, and there's no savior behind it, only humans. Hell his arc is to heroically rediscover that he's human and NOT one with Batman.
The thilling and fascinating aspect of Nolan's dark knight series is that it's a super hero trilogy where super heroes don't exist, and the films take place between the reality tha they don't exist and the mission to create the belief that they do. It's not a religious series, it's a film about the deliberate creation of religion by humans. Any religious reading of this series is quite literally the opposite of what made it so revolutionary and iconic.
Watch the prestige, it applies to you. It covers how the truth is cold and solid, but the people want to be fooled an believe in something bigger. It's about the reality being dark and twisted and how the idea of something beyond reality being important, BUT NOT REAL. It's the audiences want to believe that makes them look past the reality and see something grander. That's precisely what you've done to his other films, which is ironic. You've taken films about the cold solid reality, and you've completely looked past and seen the movies you wanted to see. You ignored the non religious truth right in front of you because you want to believe, you are the personification of the prestige's final monologue.
I've absolutely no problem with religion, I believe in freedom of faith. What I do have an issue with is religion clouding perspective and perverting it until it fits into a religious view, even if that's entirely not present in the reality of the thing. You've deeply misunderstood the very approach he took to Batman, and you've missed some mighty fine films in the meantime. You can be the prestige audience and fool yourself on purpose, or you can be Cobb and walk away from that close mindedness and take these things in with un deliberate perspective. I recommend you do the later, because you're missin some revolutionary movies in your focus on seeing them as traditional.