Law_of_4 wrote:Hear me out, this is my response to Fernando's plea to come back and be a normal member. Put it in spoiler tags cause it's long.
I see your point.
I see your point.
prince0gotham wrote:God damn it. I probably need Vader's speech skills to be as persuasive as I need to be right now if I wanna make this work.
Just an hour ago I discovered what I suspected for some time. I just really need everyone that reads this to be as patient as they can be and hear me out and keep an open mind while doing this. Consider that the info you're about to read in the spoiler tag is 100% proved and the person admitted absolutely everything.
Now that we got that out of the way I want to underline how I just want people to hold up and think about my suggestion.
Which is... Giving Fernando a chance to stay on this forum.
Why?
-Because I never fully agreed with what happened after the Attic fiasco. Whatever Fernando has said and however it came off it wasn't enough to ignite the hate-war that followed, which by itself eventually made that 14-15 year old kid go nuts all over the place and make it worse for himself. Most of us are the reason it all ended up in flames and the reason for his return as a troll Bakanboi account (that Teddy ultimately thought was Sadtroll, though I should point out Ferny has never been Sadtroll even though he said so an hour ago in chat (but that was just so he wouldn't admit he's Ferny... it's complicated... just trust me)) and as ragul.
-Because I think we need to do this if we want to be sure that there will be no new troll accounts made by Fernando.
I've already talked with him about it and he's already admitted that he's been acting crazy and that by forum rules he should never be allowed back on the site. Regardless, that's exactly what I suggest we do. Allow him to stay. Allow him to post and be normal. Give him a chance and not push him around and not make him act his age. Imo the less we trust him the more he is inclined to go on with the secret identities and troll business. Which is why I think we should just assume that he'll never cause such problems again (he's been acting pretty chill as Bruce and does seem to have a clearer idea about what he's done) and hope for the best.
Forget Attic, forget names like fagnando or fagnintendo, forget Ragul, forget the SH business. I know there's a lot to forget but I want you to see that right now this is the optimal option. You can't trust him? Then trust the fact that (concidering how much he's interested in this place (probably because there's things about NF that people just can't help but love...)) he'll eventually want to try and get back here and post again. If he already can, without having to put on a mask, then there's gonna be one less troll around here. And I want that.
Just give him a chance. Please.
prince0gotham wrote:God damn it. I probably need Vader's speech skills to be as persuasive as I need to be right now if I wanna make this work.
Just an hour ago I discovered what I suspected for some time. I just really need everyone that reads this to be as patient as they can be and hear me out and keep an open mind while doing this. Consider that the info you're about to read in the spoiler tag is 100% proved and the person admitted absolutely everything.
Now that we got that out of the way I want to underline how I just want people to hold up and think about my suggestion.
Which is... Giving Fernando a chance to stay on this forum.
Why?
-Because I never fully agreed with what happened after the Attic fiasco. Whatever Fernando has said and however it came off it wasn't enough to ignite the hate-war that followed, which by itself eventually made that 14-15 year old kid go nuts all over the place and make it worse for himself. Most of us are the reason it all ended up in flames and the reason for his return as a troll Bakanboi account (that Teddy ultimately thought was Sadtroll, though I should point out Ferny has never been Sadtroll even though he said so an hour ago in chat (but that was just so he wouldn't admit he's Ferny... it's complicated... just trust me)) and as ragul.
-Because I think we need to do this if we want to be sure that there will be no new troll accounts made by Fernando.
I've already talked with him about it and he's already admitted that he's been acting crazy and that by forum rules he should never be allowed back on the site. Regardless, that's exactly what I suggest we do. Allow him to stay. Allow him to post and be normal. Give him a chance and not push him around and not make him act his age. Imo the less we trust him the more he is inclined to go on with the secret identities and troll business. Which is why I think we should just assume that he'll never cause such problems again (he's been acting pretty chill as Bruce and does seem to have a clearer idea about what he's done) and hope for the best.
Forget Attic, forget names like fagnando or fagnintendo, forget Ragul, forget the SH business. I know there's a lot to forget but I want you to see that right now this is the optimal option. You can't trust him? Then trust the fact that (concidering how much he's interested in this place (probably because there's things about NF that people just can't help but love...)) he'll eventually want to try and get back here and post again. If he already can, without having to put on a mask, then there's gonna be one less troll around here. And I want that.
Just give him a chance. Please.
