prince0gotham wrote:Memento is the most coherent movie in the last 15 years, if not even 20 probably. You can't call it incoherent simply because there is stuff that was left unclear for you. I've seen it 20 times and still can't put the whole thing together, maybe because the movie's purpose is to do exactly that. To shatter your perception of time and let you live in the perpetual present (something that's been said about patience with anterograde amnesia, them living in something of a perpetual present, not knowing exactly what comes after what).

It's amazing how the laws of causality have not been touched in the slightest with this movie while everything else, although following a strict formula, feels scrambled when the movie ends. I mean it doesn't matter if you learn the formula and are able to tell someone what it actually is. After the movie finishes you're still not able to order it in your head. You remember moments but not their place. Most of all you remember some of the beginnings of some segments. The ends and the beginnings are usually quite memorable (which ironically is exactly the moment where and when Leonard forgets) but you remember the beginnings (nevermind that each beginning is another segment's end) because they make a stronger impression.

After more than 20 viewings I still take time to (when asked) figure out if Lenny had sex with Natalie in the middle of the movie, or the third quarter or fourth or second. Also ironically I seem to remember the colored segments (the one that are backwards) better. They have more action and the BnW ones are manily narration anyway.

The whole movie is a subjective experiment with the viewer and that's its exact purpose so 'confusing' yes, 'incoheren't no.

prince0gotham wrote:Memento is the most coherent movie in the last 15 years, if not even 20 probably. You can't call it incoherent simply because there is stuff that was left unclear for you. I've seen it 20 times and still can't put the whole thing together, maybe because the movie's purpose is to do exactly that. To shatter your perception of time and let you live in the perpetual present (something that's been said about patience with anterograde amnesia, them living in something of a perpetual present, not knowing exactly what comes after what).

It's amazing how the laws of causality have not been touched in the slightest with this movie while everything else, although following a strict formula, feels scrambled when the movie ends. I mean it doesn't matter if you learn the formula and are able to tell someone what it actually is. After the movie finishes you're still not able to order it in your head. You remember moments but not their place. Most of all you remember some of the beginnings of some segments. The ends and the beginnings are usually quite memorable (which ironically is exactly the moment where and when Leonard forgets) but you remember the beginnings (nevermind that each beginning is another segment's end) because they make a stronger impression.

After more than 20 viewings I still take time to (when asked) figure out if Lenny had sex with Natalie in the middle of the movie, or the third quarter or fourth or second. Also ironically I seem to remember the colored segments (the one that are backwards) better. They have more action and the BnW ones are manily narration anyway.

The whole movie is a subjective experiment with the viewer and that's its exact purpose so 'confusing' yes, 'incoheren't no.

oracle86 wrote:

prince0gotham wrote:Memento is the most coherent movie in the last 15 years, if not even 20 probably. You can't call it incoherent simply because there is stuff that was left unclear for you. I've seen it 20 times and still can't put the whole thing together, maybe because the movie's purpose is to do exactly that. To shatter your perception of time and let you live in the perpetual present (something that's been said about patience with anterograde amnesia, them living in something of a perpetual present, not knowing exactly what comes after what).

It's amazing how the laws of causality have not been touched in the slightest with this movie while everything else, although following a strict formula, feels scrambled when the movie ends. I mean it doesn't matter if you learn the formula and are able to tell someone what it actually is. After the movie finishes you're still not able to order it in your head. You remember moments but not their place. Most of all you remember some of the beginnings of some segments. The ends and the beginnings are usually quite memorable (which ironically is exactly the moment where and when Leonard forgets) but you remember the beginnings (nevermind that each beginning is another segment's end) because they make a stronger impression.

After more than 20 viewings I still take time to (when asked) figure out if Lenny had sex with Natalie in the middle of the movie, or the third quarter or fourth or second. Also ironically I seem to remember the colored segments (the one that are backwards) better. They have more action and the BnW ones are manily narration anyway.

The whole movie is a subjective experiment with the viewer and that's its exact purpose so 'confusing' yes, 'incoheren't no.

It's because of guys like prince0gotham that we need a emoticon in NolanFans.

And seriously, this thread has veered off totally. Perhaps, the mods should consider splicing everything from where Toormie started posting and make it a thread in Memento, so that we can continue here with this thread's original purpose.

Based4Life wrote:NOLAN IS BASED AS FUCK. HE FUCKS BITCHES AND GETS CASH ALMOST AS HARD AS ME YOUR BASEDGOD. KEEP DOING YA THANG PLAYBOY BRRRRMMMMMM TASTY! - LIL B

dafox wrote:

Based4Life wrote:NOLAN IS BASED AS FUCK. HE FUCKS BITCHES AND GETS CASH ALMOST AS HARD AS ME YOUR BASEDGOD. KEEP DOING YA THANG PLAYBOY BRRRRMMMMMM TASTY! - LIL B

I was reading this while in class and I lolled. it was pretty awkward

Robin wrote:Francis Ford Coppola:

"There are a lot of very talented guys here. David O. Russell has made four remarkable films in a row. Christopher Nolan, with films like Memento, is dazzling in the things he is willing to do."

Robin wrote:Adam Shankman

"I'm older than he is, but I want to be Christopher Nolan when I grow up."