thedisabledcubicle wrote:darkest_knight is clearly trolling. If he has a theory, then he hasn't properly formed it yet and is waiting for someone to propose a wild rosetta stone that will set him off.
There's nothing to suggest that TDKR is going to be anything like Full Metal Jacket, and Modine's inclusion is perhaps more of a personal wish for Nolan than anything connected to either films.
I don't think Modine got the credit or exposure he deserved for FMJ and maybe Nolan, like a Kubrick-reincarnate*, wants to give him a pay-day.
*Massive joke. Calm down.
I think that by now you should give me the benefit of a doubt.
thedisabledcubicle wrote:Nevermind. Just read his theory, and I don't buy it.
I'll agree that from those archetypes; Gordon is clearly a Victim, but there's nothing as yet to confirm that Modine is a Villain-turned-Hero. Personally, I think the way he fires at the rebels is pretty villainous.
But then, I don't think that these three characters will necessarily perform a triangle in this way. Who's to say that Gordon, Blake and Selina don't form their own triangle. And Nixon is a part of Mayor and Fox's triangles, or Miranda and someone else.
You could put them together as 'law enforcers', but what about Blake's team (Sunjata?) or consider how the group of law enforcers themselves form a meta-triangle with 'villains' and 'heroes'.
There's something in it, but it's almost impossible to consider a character arc or narrative-theme without the final product or a script.
My lead in was really just for attention. But I have genuine ideas on this subject. Obviously, everything about this film is speculation until we actually see it. However, the character triangle is something that Nolan has used in the past and this scene from Full Metal Jacket is an example of how the great Stanley Kubrick used a triangle. It just happened to have Modine in it. My "red herring," if you will.
Now, imagine for a second that instead of the traumatizing scene where Private Pyle blows Sgt. Hartmaan away and then offs himself, all in front of Private Joker... you have Bane (the villain), Batman (the victim), and Modine (the onlooker).
The Dark Knight > Batman Begins > Batman '89 > Batman Returns > Batman Forever > Dog Shit > Batman & Robin > Zombie Shit and Maggots > Catwoman
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