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Nolan Fans Warning.

Posted: September 11th, 2012, 10:28 am
by prince0gotham
prince0gotham wrote:So, if you care about this place, think of escalation each time you make a move. Because, if you don't, later on you'll complain about someone else's move on you and any enemy will remain external.
The more one justifies irresponsibility and disorder with that of or that caused by others the more others will do the same.

"Those noobs" that are "ruining" this place are external factors whose effect can be amplified by whatever you push them into doing. I know how someone can be unpleasant but giving him reason to be so much more unpleasant and THEN complaining that he's not changing and not backing out is not the right mentality in any way. Same with the mods (what Teddy and chee said).

I've been doing the same thing with talli, arguing with him, wanting to make him change for the sake of the others. The result was that I along with everyone else gave that hardheaded and misguided guy reason to do more of the same. I didn't really listen to the people that told me to cut it out because I thought my intentions were pure and 'spoke for the people'. That didn't matter though. What people were witnessing was one hardheaded guy arguing with another so I guess everyone assumed it's ok to fight fire with fire and that idea spread and grew. I'm at the root of the cause for this and the nature of that feud penetrated everyone's perception of what-is-a-normal-forum-interraction.

So am I the only one who's gonna admit fault instead of stating 'NF has turned into a hellhole' and blame it on the noobs or whoever you think deserves punishment for whatever he bothered you with. The "we can't let em run around for free" kind of thinking is completely wrong and I apologize to Teddy for having and spreading the mob mentality in the past.

Now you don't even need unionized riots.

Nolan Fans Warning.

Posted: September 11th, 2012, 1:05 pm
by Cilogy
prince0gotham wrote:
prince0gotham wrote:So, if you care about this place, think of escalation each time you make a move. Because, if you don't, later on you'll complain about someone else's move on you and any enemy will remain external.
The more one justifies irresponsibility and disorder with that of or that caused by others the more others will do the same.

"Those noobs" that are "ruining" this place are external factors whose effect can be amplified by whatever you push them into doing. I know how someone can be unpleasant but giving him reason to be so much more unpleasant and THEN complaining that he's not changing and not backing out is not the right mentality in any way. Same with the mods (what Teddy and chee said).

I've been doing the same thing with talli, arguing with him, wanting to make him change for the sake of the others. The result was that I along with everyone else gave that hardheaded and misguided guy reason to do more of the same. I didn't really listen to the people that told me to cut it out because I thought my intentions were pure and 'spoke for the people'. That didn't matter though. What people were witnessing was one hardheaded guy arguing with another so I guess everyone assumed it's ok to fight fire with fire and that idea spread and grew. I'm at the root of the cause for this and the nature of that feud penetrated everyone's perception of what-is-a-normal-forum-interraction.

So am I the only one who's gonna admit fault instead of stating 'NF has turned into a hellhole' and blame it on the noobs or whoever you think deserves punishment for whatever he bothered you with. The "we can't let em run around for free" kind of thinking is completely wrong and I apologize to Teddy for having and spreading the mob mentality in the past.

Now you don't even need unionized riots.
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Okay joking aside, I sort of agree with you. I don't believe blaming everything on a few people is the right way to go. I do believe that communication sucks on NF, and that tends to be the root of all our problems. People either don't read shit the right way, or they get too many messages about shit, or they just completely ignore shit altogether while focusing their attention on something else. It's quite frustrating, but if we can solve that issue then we pretty much solve most other things.

Nolan Fans Warning.

Posted: September 11th, 2012, 2:05 pm
by ThePrestige
Nolan Fans may be the only friends I've ever had!!! :goNF:

Nolan Fans Warning.

Posted: September 16th, 2012, 1:44 am
by BatMan528491
ThePrestige wrote:Nolan Fans may be the only friends I've ever had!!! :goNF:
I'm sorry man

Nolan Fans Warning.

Posted: September 16th, 2012, 3:55 pm
by steveportee
Crazy Eight wrote:If ryan4butler died I think this forum would be a much better place.

And solo and steve I don't give a shit if you're banned get your bitchasses back on this here forum.
I love you baby.