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Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 12:13 pm
by Dobson
Oku wrote: ↑June 27th, 2019, 12:05 pm
Saw some set photos of Marvel's upcoming Black Widow movie, and I was amazed at how many similarities it shared with Tenet.
Both are:
- spy films (or at least I assume) coming out summer 2020; Black Widow in May, and Tenet in July
- currently shooting in formerly communist Eastern Bloc countries
- using a tram and an armored fighting vehicle in an action scene
Oh, and did I mention that there's also Bond 25 coming out in April 2020?
There's a very real chance that come July 2020, audiences could be burnt out on the spy genre, which will affect Tenet's box office unless it has some kind of high-concept hook setting it apart that we don't yet know about.
Safe to say, summer 2020 box office is going to be fun.
Kingsman is coming out, too
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 12:25 pm
by Vader182
People doubted the box office prospects of Inception, Interstellar and Dunkirk.
This will be fine.
-Vader
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 12:46 pm
by misho92
Audiences don’t really get “burnt out”.... that’s just a misconception. They release over 5 superhero movies each year, and people still go watch them. Audiences are smarter than that... as long as the film is the great, people will flock to the cinema, regardless of the genre. Tenet will do just fine. In fact I would argue the opposite, if Bond 25 and the others are great, that only helps Tenet in the long run.
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 1:28 pm
by Picasso
Around 700M
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 1:39 pm
by radewart
Looking at recent failures of tired franchise pictures, besides the Disney stuff, I think audiences are longing for something new. If this movie is good, it could really take off.
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 1:57 pm
by The Special One
radewart wrote: ↑June 27th, 2019, 1:39 pm
Looking at recent failures of tired franchise pictures, besides the Disney stuff, I think audiences are longing for something new. If this movie is good, it could really take off.
Absolutely
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 2:54 pm
by Nomis
radewart wrote: ↑June 27th, 2019, 1:39 pm
Looking at recent failures of tired franchise pictures, besides the Disney stuff, I think audiences are longing for something new. If this movie is good, it could really take off.
Well, that on top of a relatively espionage heavy year in 2020 especially with all of them rather quickly after each other
Then again I have hopes for Nolan coming with the most creative one, narrative wise. I'm sure it's going to be a stunner too.
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: June 27th, 2019, 5:41 pm
by Nolan62
Nomis wrote: ↑June 27th, 2019, 2:54 pm
radewart wrote: ↑June 27th, 2019, 1:39 pm
Looking at recent failures of tired franchise pictures, besides the Disney stuff, I think audiences are longing for something new. If this movie is good, it could really take off.
Well, that on top of a relatively espionage heavy year in 2020 especially with all of them rather quickly after each other
Then again I have hopes for Nolan coming with the most creative one, narrative wise. I'm sure it's going to be a stunner too.
His movies are getting more and more audacious, creative and sophisticated each time, so yes, expect something incredible with Tenet.
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: August 8th, 2019, 1:47 pm
by Batman's Batman
I think, after giving my own question some thought, I know the answer: no! If you look at the current state of Hollywood, it's clear that you can't expect an original project with no name or franchise recognition to make a billion. No, not possible, even if Nolan directs it. The Dark Knight and its sequel made billions because they were movies about the biggest superhero the world has ever known besides Superman and Spider-Man. You had something to build from there. In this case, there is nothing outside of Nolan's name. Not even the cast sells this movie, because, outside of Pattinson, there are no leading people who have proven themselves to sell tickets for big blockbusters. When was the last time an original movie made over 700 million worldwide? All I'm thinking is Gravity. And that was seven years ago. This movie will be lucky to do Inception numbers. But even then it won't be as impressive, because its budget is said to be on 60 million higher than Inception's.
Re: Tenet - Box Office Discussion/Speculation
Posted: August 8th, 2019, 2:07 pm
by HorrorBiz
Batman's Batman wrote: ↑August 8th, 2019, 1:47 pm
I think, after giving my own question some thought, I know the answer: no! If you look at the current state of Hollywood, it's clear that you can't expect an original project with no name or franchise recognition to make a billion. No, not possible, even if Nolan directs it. The Dark Knight and its sequel made billions because they were movies about the biggest superhero the world has ever known besides Superman and Spider-Man. You had something to build from there. In this case, there is nothing outside of Nolan's name. Not even the cast sells this movie, because, outside of Pattinson, there are no leading people who have proven themselves to sell tickets for big blockbusters. When was the last time an original movie made over 700 million worldwide? All I'm thinking is Gravity. And that was seven years ago. This movie will be lucky to do Inception numbers. But even then it won't be as impressive, because its budget is said to be on 60 million higher than Inception's.
Fair points. The only recent movie I can think of that had no name or franchise recognition and still went on to gross over a billion dollars at the box office is
Avatar, and that was 10 years ago. I don't think this movie will be some kind of
Heaven's Gate-style flop by any means, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the first Nolan film that loses some money for the studio. Only time will tell.