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Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 20th, 2017, 7:32 pm
by Geoffrey
lmfao lmao lmfao lmao basically a facebooker but i replace lol with lmao eyy lmao hehe 2edgy4u
Believing a Soros conspiracy, silly, but not making of a douchebag. Wanting to preserve statues that can be considered parts of culture that have only very, very recently become problematic, again, doesn't make him a douchebag. Give me a break.

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 20th, 2017, 8:03 pm
by LeoCobb
Geoffrey wrote:
lmfao lmao lmfao lmao basically a facebooker but i replace lol with lmao eyy lmao hehe 2edgy4u
Believing a Soros conspiracy, silly, but not making of a douchebag. Wanting to preserve statues that can be considered parts of culture that have only very, very recently become problematic, again, doesn't make him a douchebag. Give me a break.
I agree with you.

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 20th, 2017, 8:55 pm
by Master Virgo
Glorifying a man who fought to keep slavery in effect is now part of preserving culture? Maybe they should make a statue of Bin Laden and put it in some museum too. He's part of humanity's history after all.£

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 20th, 2017, 9:32 pm
by Samuel R. Jankis
Master Virgo wrote:Glorifying a man who fought to keep slavery in effect is now part of preserving culture? Maybe they should make a statue of Bin Laden and put it in some museum too. He's part of humanity's history after all.£
Pretty hard when he's not even American.

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 4:33 am
by Trax-3
Master Virgo wrote:Glorifying a man who fought to keep slavery in effect is now part of preserving culture? Maybe they should make a statue of Bin Laden and put it in some museum too. He's part of humanity's history after all.£

Judging history and historical personalities by modern moral standards is stupid. Morals and values are always shifting.
Are people supposed to constantly erect statues and drag them down? If you wan't to make your own point put up a statue of your own but keep your hands off of other people's work.


The degenerates commiting those acts of vandalism are one step away from book burning.

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 4:51 am
by Pratham

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 6:14 am
by Master Virgo
Trax-3 wrote:Judging history and historical personalities by modern moral standards is stupid. Morals and values are always shifting.
Are people supposed to constantly erect statues and drag them down? If you wan't to make your own point put up a statue of your own but keep your hands off of other people's work.


The degenerates commiting those acts of vandalism are one step away from book burning.
Nope. Law changes, basic human morality is constant. Slavery was allowed in Robert E Lee's time, but it was evil, plain and simple for everyone to see back then, as it is now. There is no point to be made. It's not an argument. Confederacy should not be glorified.

Anyone can have whatever statue they want in their own personal properties. But it shouldn't be put up in public places.£

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 7:46 am
by Geoffrey
No, slavery was not always perceived as "wrong". If you Virgo were raised in the 1500s, I bet you'd agree with slavery, because that was just what people learned to think. Slaves were thought of like farm animals today, as inferior to humans and tools for production. Slavery was the norm for centuries and centuries, and unless you were some sort of humanitarian philosopher, you were unlikely to have thought otherwise. Up until recently most people have been prejudiced towards homosexuals, does that mean everyone up until the 20th century was a monstrosity? No.

Obviously by the time of the Confederacy it was more commonplace to think of slavery as wrong, but is it such an issue that century old statues part of history must be torn down? No.

This is really silly, but if Osama Bin Laden was a terrorist from centuries ago who blew people up while terrorism was the norm, led a rebellion when terrorism was outlawed, and then had a statue built for him later down the line after his rebellion failed, I wouldn't look gleefully at the statue, but I wouldn't demand it's removal. It'd just be history to me.

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 8:48 am
by Havoc1st
We gonna turn this into a political thread?

Re: Dunkirk Industry/Celebrity Buzz

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 8:49 am
by Sanchez
This thread went places

edit: sorry for 10th post :(