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Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 11:38 am
by natalie
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Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 11:42 am
by Nomis
They both look so good

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 11:52 am
by Oku
AhmadAli95 wrote:Haven't seen The Shape Of Water yet and I'm sure Del Toro is a great director but I really don't understand how they pick the winner. On what grounds?
Dunkirk was a huge directorial achievement. Magnificent score too.
Others have mentioned the obvious reasons, so here's one that nobody else has mentioned: I would say that a contributing factor to Mr. Nolan's loss is that he is the single biggest director in Hollywood right now.

What I mean by that is, everyone knows that his next project is basically locked at WB, that he will have carte blanche, and that he will have zero problem getting funding for it.

And that hurts his chances for Dunkirk, because it is taken for granted that he will win someday down the line, so that there is no sense of culmination, finality, or urgency to giving him the award today.

Disclaimer: again, I am not saying that this is the only reason; just one of them.
Reaveybeach wrote:Honestly, what did you people expect here? Dunkirk is not an awards movie, it never was, the lack of story, fleshed out characters and a more dense script was always a risk, this is the result. Fury Road didn't win either, neither did The Revenant. Maaaaybe Chris will win Director, maybe, and some technical awards are obviously more likely, but the big categories? Nah.

We're living in a time where representation and diversity is finally becoming more of an issue, it's a time where apparently (not surprised tbh) a massive amount of sexual assault occurs in Hollywood. You've got movies like Lady Bird, Get out, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri very much engaging with those issues, a lot of Academy voters are women/POC, do the math. And then you've got DARKEST HOUR, a big'ol WWII "actors flick" with Oldman acting his ass off. And of course, Shape Of Water. All the boxes are already ticked. There is simply no room for Dunkirk here, nor interest. Either we're gonna get a Fury Road situation and it will win a lot of technical awards, with perhaps, maybe a Best Director win. Or it will do like every Nolan film, a few technical wins, maybe a some noms in the big categories, but no wins.
The Revenant relies on conventional backstory, melodramatic flashbacks, self-indulgent pacing, etc. though; not really like Dunkirk.

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 2:20 pm
by jacobj
Just a couple of hours untill for the nominations for the Bafta awards :D
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdsI2jDhgmh/?taken-by=bafta

Please give mr Nolan at least a nomination :gonf:

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 2:56 pm
by HorrorBiz
Oku wrote:Others have mentioned the obvious reasons, so here's one that nobody else has mentioned: I would say that a contributing factor to Mr. Nolan's loss is that he is the single biggest director in Hollywood right now.

What I mean by that is, everyone knows that his next project is basically locked at WB, that he will have carte blanche, and that he will have zero problem getting funding for it.

And that hurts his chances for Dunkirk, because it is taken for granted that he will win someday down the line, so that there is no sense of culmination, finality, or urgency to giving him the award today
Based on the tweets from industry journalists who cover these awards shows, it seems to be more a thing of Nolan not doing much as far as 'campaigning' for the movie goes, whereas GDT has been everywhere.

https://twitter.com/DavidPoland/status/ ... 2584585216

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 3:16 pm
by nightfury93
HorrorBiz wrote:
Oku wrote:Others have mentioned the obvious reasons, so here's one that nobody else has mentioned: I would say that a contributing factor to Mr. Nolan's loss is that he is the single biggest director in Hollywood right now.

What I mean by that is, everyone knows that his next project is basically locked at WB, that he will have carte blanche, and that he will have zero problem getting funding for it.

And that hurts his chances for Dunkirk, because it is taken for granted that he will win someday down the line, so that there is no sense of culmination, finality, or urgency to giving him the award today
Based on the tweets from industry journalists who cover these awards shows, it seems to be more a thing of Nolan not doing much as far as 'campaigning' for the movie goes, whereas GDT has been everywhere.

https://twitter.com/DavidPoland/status/ ... 2584585216

This wouldn't surprise me at all, and in fact I agree its probably the case.
Still.... absolutely freaking disgusting on so many levels.

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 3:25 pm
by dormouse7
During the Golden Globes, the Dunkirk haters were out in force dissing the film on Twitter.

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 3:43 pm
by nightfury93
dormouse7 wrote:During the Golden Globes, the Dunkirk haters were out in force dissing the film on Twitter.
Of f-cking course.
Were they shilling for their own personal favorites?

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 4:51 pm
by Willem
dormouse7 wrote:During the Golden Globes, the Dunkirk haters were out in force dissing the film on Twitter.
Yup, and they all use the same old arguments, like “it’s so boring”, “you don’t even get to know the main character’s name” and “there’s almost no dialogue”.

Oh well :|

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: January 8th, 2018, 4:58 pm
by Master Virgo
They didn't like Dunkirk, their loss, who cares? I wanted critics and academy members to admire the film, so that it gets nominations and accolades, and I wanted audience to like it enough so that it would be a box office success.

Some nobodies on the internet who have peculiar principles and boundaries for what good cinema is supposed to be, don't bother me, and they shouldn't bother anyone.£