Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread
Posted: December 15th, 2017, 12:25 pm
God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.
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Sorry to hear that.Sanchez wrote:God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.
Sanchez wrote:Fine, guess I did it. I'll update this like every week or something. Went through the past 25 pages or so, and found a few more on IMDB that I thought was relevant. If anything is missing let me know.
Past awards:
Upcoming awards:
Seattle Film Critics Awards (December 15th):
7 nominations: picture, director, cinematography, editing, score, production design, VFX
Phoenix Critics Circle Awards (December 16th):
3 nominations: picture, director, score
St. Louis Film Critics Association Awards (December 17th):
5 nominations: cinematography, editing, production design, VFX, score
Los Angeles Online Film Critics Society Awards (January 3rd):
8 nominations: directing, editing, score, stunt work, action/war movie, blockbuster, cinematography, VFX
Australian Academy International Awards (January 5th):
4 nominations: picture, director, screenplay, supporting actor (Tom Hardy)
Houston Film Critics Society Awards (January 6th):
4 nominations: picture, director, cinematography, score
Golden Globes (January 7th):
3 nominations: drama picture, director, score
Critics Choice Awards (January 11th):
8 nominations: picture, acting ensemble, director, cinematography, VFX, production design, score, editing
Screen Actors Guild Awards (January 21th)
1 nomination: stunt ensemble
Grammy Awards (January 28th):
1 nomination: score
Satellite Awards (February 10th):
11 nominations: picture, supporting actor, director, screenplay, score, cinematography, VFX, editing, sound, art direction, costume design
Awards yet to announce nominations:
National Society of Film Critics (January 6th)
No nominations announced
Producers Guild Awards (January 20th)
Announced Jan. 5th
American Cinema Editors Awards (January 26th)
Announced Jan. 3rd
Art Directors Guild Awards (January 27th)
Announced Jan. 4th
Directors Guild Awards (February 3th
Announced Jan. 10th
University of Southern California Scripter Awards (February 10th)
Announced Jan. 10th
Writers Guild Awards (February 11th)
Announced Jan. 4th
Visual Effects Society Awards (February 13th)
Announced Jan. 15th
American Society of Cinematographers Awards (February 17th)
Announced Jan. 10th
British Academy of Film and Television Arts Awards (February 18th)
Announced Jan. 10th
Motion Picture Sound Editors Awards (February 18th)
Announced Jan. 22nd
Costume Designers Guild Awards (February 20th)
Announced Jan. 10th
Cinema Audio Society Awards (February 24th)
Announced Jan. 10th
Makeup & Hairstyling Guild Awards (February 24th)
Announced Jan. 5th
Academy Awards (March 4th)
Announced Jan. 23rd
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Vader182 wrote:Not shocking. Dunkirk's frames themselves aren't pictorially pristine. It's the actual opposite of the "One Perfect Shot" mentality of cinematography, unlike the lyrical imagery of Shape of Water or Blade Runner 2049.Master Virgo wrote:But Hoyte lost.£
It'll get nominated, but the win will depend on good-will towards Dunkirk overall and right now it's all over the map.
The race could be between Lady Bird, Dunkirk, and The Post. Or none of the above. It's the widest race in YEARS.
-Vader
Vader182 wrote:Sanchez wrote:Also, Vader, could you elaborate on this part: I'd love to hear more about this. And btw, wouldn't the final product of the shots in those movies require more from people like the production designers, than in the case of Dunkirk (where Hoyte carries around an IMAX camera on his shoulders for example)? If that makes sense..
My point is, I do understand that 2049 and Shape of Water might look more visual pleasing to the viewers, but that it's thanks to a lot more people than only the DP, and therefore the DP that (might) have had a lot more to do with the final outcome himself, is the more deserving winner.
Many of Dunkirk's images are designed with the camera locked onto the side of boats or planes and half the image has a huge plane blocking the complete field of view, or they're super-close ups of Tom Hardy, or off-kilter shots of Rylance. Those aren't shots most people would think to hang to the walls of their study. Those images largely work for their experiential or impressionistic value rather than pure aestheticism. While folks like Deakins harp on this all the time, the film community can forget great cinematography is about motivated style, serving the mood and feeling of the story rather than creating "One Perfect Shot" style images. It's obvious to say, but nevertheless needs saying more often than I'd think.
Which is why I'm not above bothering fans of The Revenant and remarking it has "terrible cinematography." Not because the images aren't aesthetically extraordinary--they are of course--but because for me and many other people (as noted by press, etc) Chivo and Inarritu's visual design doesn't unite the story and style, it divides them. They don't grasp the motivated style of when Malick and Tarkovsky succesfully employ that level of intellectualized formalism. Nolan takes the totally opposite approach, where each frame is only about the audience, only about the story, regardless of how pictorially "perfect" any particular image is.
And that's why I won't be shocked if Dunkirk doesn't get awards attention for cinematography unless it's already winning big stuff.
-Vader
What the hell happened? I'm trying to find some of my old posts myself.Sanchez wrote:God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.
They had some server trouble, and had to launch a backup from a month ago.MuffinMcFluffin wrote:What the hell happened? I'm trying to find some of my old posts myself.Sanchez wrote:God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.