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Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 15th, 2017, 12:25 pm
by Sanchez
God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 15th, 2017, 1:21 pm
by natalie

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 15th, 2017, 5:24 pm
by Oku
Sanchez wrote:God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.
Sorry to hear that.

On the bright side, now you can help contribute to this list instead :) :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... by_Dunkirk

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 16th, 2017, 1:13 am
by Pratham
Sanchez wrote:Fine, guess I did it. I'll update this like every week or something. Went through the past 25 pages or so, and found a few more on IMDB that I thought was relevant. If anything is missing let me know.

Past awards:
National Board of Review's top 10
American Film Institute’s top 10
Boston Online Film Critics' top 10 (6th place)
New York Film Critics Online's top 10
Atlanta Film Critics Circle's top 10 (2nd place)

Los Angeles Film Critics Association: 1 win: Editing

Detroit Film Critics Society: 1 nomination: Directing

Washington D.C. Film Critics: 1 win: Director. another 6 nominations: Film, acting ensemble, production design, cinematography, editing, score

San Francisco Film Critics Circle: 5 nominations: Director, cinematography, editing, production design, score

Boston Online Film Critics: 1 win: Editing

San Diego Film Critics Society: 1 win: Cinematography. another 7 nominations: Picture, director, screenplay, editing, production design, VFX, best use of music

Chicago Film Critics Association: 1 win: Director. another 5 nominations: Picture, art direction, editing, score, cinematography

Atlanta Film Critics Circle: 2 wins: Director, cinematography

Boston Society of Film Critics: 1 win: Cinematography
Upcoming awards:
Seattle Film Critics Awards (December 15th):
7 nominations: picture, director, cinematography, editing, score, production design, VFX

Phoenix Critics Circle Awards (December 16th):
3 nominations: picture, director, score

St. Louis Film Critics Association Awards (December 17th):
5 nominations: cinematography, editing, production design, VFX, score

Los Angeles Online Film Critics Society Awards (January 3rd):
8 nominations: directing, editing, score, stunt work, action/war movie, blockbuster, cinematography, VFX

Australian Academy International Awards (January 5th):
4 nominations: picture, director, screenplay, supporting actor (Tom Hardy)

Houston Film Critics Society Awards (January 6th):
4 nominations: picture, director, cinematography, score

Golden Globes (January 7th):
3 nominations: drama picture, director, score

Critics Choice Awards (January 11th):
8 nominations: picture, acting ensemble, director, cinematography, VFX, production design, score, editing

Screen Actors Guild Awards (January 21th)
1 nomination: stunt ensemble

Grammy Awards (January 28th):
1 nomination: score

Satellite Awards (February 10th):
11 nominations: picture, supporting actor, director, screenplay, score, cinematography, VFX, editing, sound, art direction, costume design

Awards yet to announce nominations:

National Society of Film Critics (January 6th)
No nominations announced

Producers Guild Awards (January 20th)
Announced Jan. 5th

American Cinema Editors Awards (January 26th)
Announced Jan. 3rd

Art Directors Guild Awards (January 27th)
Announced Jan. 4th

Directors Guild Awards (February 3th
Announced Jan. 10th

University of Southern California Scripter Awards (February 10th)
Announced Jan. 10th

Writers Guild Awards (February 11th)
Announced Jan. 4th

Visual Effects Society Awards (February 13th)
Announced Jan. 15th

American Society of Cinematographers Awards (February 17th)
Announced Jan. 10th

British Academy of Film and Television Arts Awards (February 18th)
Announced Jan. 10th

Motion Picture Sound Editors Awards (February 18th)
Announced Jan. 22nd

Costume Designers Guild Awards (February 20th)
Announced Jan. 10th

Cinema Audio Society Awards (February 24th)
Announced Jan. 10th

Makeup & Hairstyling Guild Awards (February 24th)
Announced Jan. 5th

Academy Awards (March 4th)
Announced Jan. 23rd

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Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 16th, 2017, 1:15 am
by Pratham
Vader182 wrote:
Master Virgo wrote:But Hoyte lost.£
Not shocking. Dunkirk's frames themselves aren't pictorially pristine. It's the actual opposite of the "One Perfect Shot" mentality of cinematography, unlike the lyrical imagery of Shape of Water or Blade Runner 2049.

It'll get nominated, but the win will depend on good-will towards Dunkirk overall and right now it's all over the map.

The race could be between Lady Bird, Dunkirk, and The Post. Or none of the above. It's the widest race in YEARS.


-Vader


Vader182 wrote:
Sanchez wrote:Also, Vader, could you elaborate on this part: I'd love to hear more about this. And btw, wouldn't the final product of the shots in those movies require more from people like the production designers, than in the case of Dunkirk (where Hoyte carries around an IMAX camera on his shoulders for example)? If that makes sense..

My point is, I do understand that 2049 and Shape of Water might look more visual pleasing to the viewers, but that it's thanks to a lot more people than only the DP, and therefore the DP that (might) have had a lot more to do with the final outcome himself, is the more deserving winner.


Many of Dunkirk's images are designed with the camera locked onto the side of boats or planes and half the image has a huge plane blocking the complete field of view, or they're super-close ups of Tom Hardy, or off-kilter shots of Rylance. Those aren't shots most people would think to hang to the walls of their study. Those images largely work for their experiential or impressionistic value rather than pure aestheticism. While folks like Deakins harp on this all the time, the film community can forget great cinematography is about motivated style, serving the mood and feeling of the story rather than creating "One Perfect Shot" style images. It's obvious to say, but nevertheless needs saying more often than I'd think.

Which is why I'm not above bothering fans of The Revenant and remarking it has "terrible cinematography." Not because the images aren't aesthetically extraordinary--they are of course--but because for me and many other people (as noted by press, etc) Chivo and Inarritu's visual design doesn't unite the story and style, it divides them. They don't grasp the motivated style of when Malick and Tarkovsky succesfully employ that level of intellectualized formalism. Nolan takes the totally opposite approach, where each frame is only about the audience, only about the story, regardless of how pictorially "perfect" any particular image is.

And that's why I won't be shocked if Dunkirk doesn't get awards attention for cinematography unless it's already winning big stuff.


-Vader

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 16th, 2017, 4:25 am
by Sanchez
Hey, nice one Pratham! :gonf:

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 16th, 2017, 5:37 am
by Master Virgo
Vancouver Film Critics Circle Awards



Best Picture
Dunkirk
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread

Best Actor
Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour

Best Actress
Sally Hawkins, The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird

Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Armie Hammer, Call Me By Your Name
Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney, I, Tonya
Lesley Manville, Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird

Best Director

Paul Thomas Anderson, Phantom Thread
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk

Best Screenplay
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Jordan Peele, Get Out

Best Foreign Language Film
BPM
A Fantastic Woman
The Square

Best Documentary
Ex-Libris: The New York Public Library
Faces Places
Jane



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Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 16th, 2017, 6:10 pm
by cooldude
I use Metacritic to check awards tally. I noticed their latest update is Nolan won Best Director at the Phoenix Critics Circle. He’s currently tied with del Toro and Gerwig for the most wins, three a piece, but placing third overall.


http://www.metacritic.com/feature/2017- ... -scorecard

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 17th, 2017, 2:22 pm
by MuffinMcFluffin
Sanchez wrote:God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.
What the hell happened? I'm trying to find some of my old posts myself.

Re: Dunkirk Awards Season Discussion Thread

Posted: December 17th, 2017, 2:37 pm
by Sanchez
MuffinMcFluffin wrote:
Sanchez wrote:God dammit. I spent like half an hour on that list.
What the hell happened? I'm trying to find some of my old posts myself.
They had some server trouble, and had to launch a backup from a month ago.