Interstellar General Film Discussion Thread

Christopher Nolan's 2014 grand scale science-fiction story about time and space, and the things that transcend them.
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Didn't see this anywhere. Real docking. All you need is a soundtrack. Full video of the whole thing can be found too. The cargo ship arrived today at ISS.

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Interesting find on reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/interstellar/c ... essage_to/

When Cooper and TARS are coding the morse into Murph's watch, the first three letters are

..-. .-.. ---

which translates to "FLO". Likely a reference to Nolan's daughter Flora, and the codename for the movie, "Flora's Letter"

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hotsauce32 wrote:Interesting find on reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/interstellar/c ... essage_to/

When Cooper and TARS are coding the morse into Murph's watch, the first three letters are

..-. .-.. ---

which translates to "FLO". Likely a reference to Nolan's daughter Flora, and the codename for the movie, "Flora's Letter"
Awwww

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I loved this movie but there's one part that annoys me that I've never been able to see an answer for, after reading tons of discussion on the film.

Why don't they just send the robots out when they land on Miller's planet? They had the ability to zoom across the water faster than humans and it just seems like they had them go so they could kill off a character.

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Tangerine wrote:I loved this movie but there's one part that annoys me that I've never been able to see an answer for, after reading tons of discussion on the film.

Why don't they just send the robots out when they land on Miller's planet? They had the ability to zoom across the water faster than humans and it just seems like they had them go so they could kill off a character.
1. point is made that the robots cannot do everything humans can.
2. They didn't know Miller had died plus they wanted to explore it themselves
3. Obviously they were not aware how dangerous it was.

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I still have a major issue with Cooper surviving and also not asking about Tom when he comes back.I just think that he should have died.And also when murph solves the equation they should have shown how those rangers went up and also what happened to Earth.It was all just too quick.I also have major problem with the crew not caring about romily and Doyles death.They could have show a bit more emotion for them because they spent alot of time together

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mosh89 wrote:I still have a major issue with Cooper surviving and also not asking about Tom when he comes back.I just think that he should have died.And also when murph solves the equation they should have shown how those rangers went up and also what happened to Earth.It was all just too quick.I also have major problem with the crew not caring about romily and Doyles death.They could have show a bit more emotion for them because they spent a lot of time together
Story wasn't about Tom and it's obvious Cooper would've asked about him while waiting. Doyle's death was definitely covered, and they didn't exactly have time to go over Romilly's death with the existence of humanity on the line. As a screenwriter all of that stuff is not vital to the story and only adds up the runtime. Would I have loved for it to Doctor Zhivago on us and be near 200 minutes? Hell yeah I'd love that but it's an incredibly tight script for being 2:45 minutes.

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Here's the plot of Interstellar.

******** Who were "They"? ***********

The human species gets suffocated due to blight become extinct. The only survivors were some scientists and engineers, probably at NASA who survived cause they stayed underground.

They carried on with their research underground and lived that way and carried human species forward for years to come, and may be after a few decades or after 100 years or so, they were able to access the higher dimensions, by using a tesseract and placing it near the singularity of some super massive blackhole, cause at singularity the time stops and hence, they could have access to infinite space and time, and that allowed them to access the higher dimensions, the 4th and the 5th dimensions. So, these survivors were "They", the so called beings of the 5th dimension.

"They" found a new home for human beings of the past, the Edmund's planet in a distant galaxy, and placed a worm hole near Saturn to help them reach there.

Now, they needed a person from the past, smart enough to whom they could give the quantum data using gravity, who could solve the equation of gravity.

They must have shortlisted a few such people (Murph being one of them), but there was a PROBLEM..


*******  THE PROBLEM   *********

Sending the quantum data using gravitational anomaly to chosen these people would have worked only if

1. that person was a physicist working on the equation of gravity.  ****************** CONDITION 1

2. the data would come from someone with whom this person shared a strong bond of Love.  *******************   CONDITION 2

Only once these 2 conditions are met, that data would make any sense to that chosen person.

So,

1. they needed to get this person to NASA so that he/she would be aligned with task of resolving the equation of gravity.************ to tackle CONDITION 1

2. they needed to get someone, with whom this person shared a strong bond of love, inside the tesseract near a singularity, so that this person would use gravity to send the quantum data from inside the tesseract, to the chosen one on earth hoping that the bond of love they share, will do the trick. ************ to tackle CONDITION 2

So, out of those chosen ones, they chose Murph cause she shared that strong bond of love with her father who also happened to be an Astronaut with NASA, and he could be somehow lead to the tesseract in the outer space, and they felt that they could use this father-daughter duo of Joseph and Murphy Cooper to make this mission a success.

We were shown that after the crash Cooper left NASA and became a farmer and later he got the news that NASA has been shut down.

Later when NASA was Re-instated as a Secret organization, cooper was not aware of NASA being still operational.

He receives NASA coordinates through a gravitational anomaly and He and Murph reach NASA n there he finds out that NASA is actually still operational.

Cooper goes on the Lazarus Mission through the wormhole and jumps into the event horizon of Gargantua.
 

*******  THE PARALLEL UNIVERSE  *******

Remember Murphy's law, everything that can happen will happen. So, when we were shown that after the crash Cooper left NASA and became a farmer, in some parallel universe he continued to be an Astronaut with NASA even after NASA became a secret organization. And cause they had access to infinite space and time and the 5th dimension, "they" could observe that parallel universe too.

In that universe too, they placed a wormhole near Saturn and Cooper(the Astronaut) captained endurance through that wormhole, and as per Murphy's law, in that universe too if he would have a choice of jumping inside Gargantua's event horizon, he would.

  *******  THE BIG HIDDEN SECRET ABOUT LAZARUS MISSION  *********

Christopher Nolan gave mission the name "Lazarus Mission", which implies someone had to die and then come back from the dead.

The big secret here is that the Cooper (the Farmer) that we see jumping inside the tesseract in the movie dies as soon as he jumps inside the event horizon.

And the Cooper that we see later inside the tesseract is the Cooper(the Astronaut) from the parallel universe, and he is the one who is dragged into the parallel universe of Cooper (farmer) inside the tesseract by "They" and he is the one who later reaches the Cooper Station.

So, Cooper (the farmer) dies and comes back from the dead, from a parallel universe as Cooper (the Astronaut). that is why Christopher Nolan chose the name "Lazarus Mission" for this mission.


 *******  THE SWITCH *********

The switch from Cooper (the farmer) to Cooper (the Astronaut) was made when Cooper (the farmer) jumps into the Event Horizon of Gargantua.

There was an untimely and relatively unnecessary Cut sequence there, where the scene switches back to earth, for apparently no reason.

Here's how it went. In that scene we see:

1. Cooper(the farmer)'s space craft catching fire soon after he detaches from endurance. (Location: inside Gargantua)

2. Cooper(the farmer) in pain (Location: inside Gargantua)

------ CUT SEQUENCE -------

3. Cooper(the farmer)'s corn field on fire (Location: Earth)

4. Cooper(the farmer)'s son watching helplessly in despair. (Location: Earth)

5. Murph filled with hopelessness, looking at the broken replica of the moon lander that her father gave to her. (Location: Earth)

So, here everything that belongs to or is related to Cooper(the farmer) is shown as kinda broken/on fire, indicating that Cooper (the farmer)'s world is coming to an end and this is where we say good bye to Cooper(the farmer).

   *******  INSIDE THE TESSERACT *********

Right after that cut sequence the movie makes a switch from Cooper(the farmer) to Cooper(the Astronaut) who jumped inside Gargantua may be decades ago.

So, when Cooper(the Astronaut) who jumped inside Gargantua in that parallel universe, at that time, Cooper(the farmer) was probably living on that farm with Murph.

The Cooper that we see inside the Tesseract is the Cooper(the Astronaut) from the parallel universe who has been dragged into the universe of Cooper(the farmer) inside the tesseract by "they".

Here, upon seeing Murph from inside the tesseract he realizes that he is looking at a Murph from a parallel universe and initially he feels that he has failed in his mission, so he feels that in that universe of Cooper(the farmer), he should make them STAY together, hence he sends the STAY message.

Then after TARS (not the TARS we saw earlier, this is TARS from the parallel universe of Cooper(the Astronaut)) tells him about the tesseract, Cooper(the Astronaut) eventually realizes that "they didn't choose him, they chose Murph to save the world".

Now everything becomes clear to him, and he,

1. gives out the NASA's coordinates to Murph and Cooper(the Farmer), so that Cooper would take Murph to NASA  ********* TO FULFIL THE CONDITION 1 **********

2. gives the quantum data through the watch. ********* TO FULFIL THE CONDITION 2 **********

Once, both the conditions are met, "they" know that his job there was done and hence, they close the tesseract and send Cooper(the Astronaut) back through the wormhole after which he is rescued and taken back to the Cooper station.


Now as "they" have access to infinite space and time, "they" make Cooper(the Astronaut) travel through the wormhole at the time when endurance, with Cooper(the farmer) inside was going through the wormhole in the opposite direction. There Cooper(the Astronaut) distorts spacetime to create an impression of a handshake with Brand.



****  WHY COOPER(THE FARMER) ****

So, when Cooper(the Astronaut) jumped into Gargantua, "they" dragged him into Cooper(the farmer)'s parallel universe,

Why did they do it that way?

Why did they not let him be in his own universe, of Cooper(the Astronaut)?

The answer is cause that would never have worked out. If from inside the tesseract, Cooper(The Astronaut) would give out the NASA's coordinates back himself (Cooper(The Astronaut)) of the past.

Then Cooper(The Astronaut) of the past would have known where those coordinates lead to, cause he worked with NASA (the secret organization), and that being a top government secret, he would have never shared that information with Murph and hence, CONDITION 1 would not have met.

So, they had to create a parallel universe for Cooper in which he would think that NASA has been shut down and would not be aware of the fact that NASA was later re-instated.

To make that happen, they create a Gravitational anomaly to crash Cooper's spacecraft (the one he had a nightmare about in the beginning of the movie) to somehow force him to quit NASA and hence, created a parallel universe of Cooper(the farmer).

When Cooper(the farmer) received the NASA's coordinates, he had no idea what those coordinates lead to and accidentally ended up taking Murph to NASA, hence fulfilling the CONDITION 1.


That for me is the Plot of Interstellar. There was no time loop or bootstrap paradox. In the 5th dimension there never is.

And if you want to find the answers to questions like,

- How did Murph figure out that the Cooper was her ghost?

- What did TARS mean by the statement - "They did not bring us here to change the past"?

-The clues in the movie that support the theory of 2 Coopers from 2 parallel universes.

Watch this detailed video with the explaination of the whole plot along with all these answers by clicking the link below.

https://youtu.be/AyDllh6C5X0

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A solid Wisecrack video on Interstellar.

Still can't get why people have a problem with the love angle which is the emotional cornerstone of the film and beautifully juxtaposes with science creating the overall message that we shouldn't neglect either of them but rather combine both for our betterment. Combine the search for objectivity while exploring subjectivity.

But hey, that's emotions for you. If it didn't connect with you then it didn't. For me it's still a 10/10 masterpiece.

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On the topic of mis interpreting Interstellar, here is the only video by Leon Thomas Aka: Renegade cut, on wich i disagree wholeheartedly, it seems to me than Leon dislikes Nolan, perhaps he thinks he is a conservative (maybe because of the dark knight trilogy)
its a bit sad because i almost always agree fully and apreciate Leon`s work, i like his politics, but this video feels like a diss, glorified and sophisticated nit picking of subtext the movie doesnt even have, he also disliked Dunkirk, when a follower asked him why he didnt review it, he answered "because it was bad"
not even TDKR gets as much critisism as Interstellar


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