On ITunes it is definitely "Brand". I've listened to it several times. Weird. This changes everything.

Sky007 wrote:

mosh89 wrote:Quick question guys.in a short summary what was the ending in the draft?did chris make the right choice to change it?

Cooper makes it back to earth and then the life form he brought escapes and begins adapting to earth's harsh conditions. Cooper smiles and lays there to die. Someone finds him and he goes to base similar to the one that's in the movie. It's there that he meets his great grandson (might even be great great) whose on his deathbed. Cooper makes amends and then goes off into space. Final shot is a flickering light of his spaceship out in space.

Chris' draft is much better. Takes us into a place we've never seen and becomes even more personal than it already was. Just far more nuanced, mind-blowing, and intimate with Cooper finally seeing Murphy.

Actually, Jonathan recently updated info on this, Cooper just dies in Gargantua after transmitting the data, the wormhole closes and he doesn't even get to know if he was successful!

http://nerdist.com/jonathan-nolans-endi ... ore-sense/




And, yes people, the admin guy says "Oh yeah, Brand" - everyone knows they are going to Edmunds' planet

Murphy’s Law: anything that can happen, will happen. This may be an indication towards the quantum mechanics theory of many worlds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worl ... rpretation

This simply means that our daily actions, our free will, creates multiple realities, multiple branches of existence, many worlds, multiverses.

You could for instance be served tea and coffee, and elect with your free will to choose coffee; however, in an alternate branch, you picked tea. This creates two realities or branches. Hence, every action, every invocation of our free will leads to a creation of new a branch of parallel existence, leading to possibly infinite branching like a fractal.

This choice making ability, this free will, which creates multiple branches of reality, can be illustrated as follows: http://rosettacode.org/mw/images/a/a3/F ... ee_bbc.gif

In one branch, humanity suffers blight, the Earth is dying and extinction looms. In another branch, humanity has progressed, evolved and transcended above space and time.

The transcended humanity, or referred to as "they", are able to traverse time as a physical dimension.

Like normal humanity, "they" are able to travel through space backwards and forwards, and in all other directions. However, the difference is that "they" can also travel to events in time whether backwards or forwards.

This time-travel is not a literal one whereby previous events can be altered creating paradoxes. Rather, all events which can happen, have happened. Murphy’s Law from this perspective has happened, not will happen.

All possible potential branches of reality have occurred. All events across space and time as observable by "they" have already occurred, and are available for "they" to traverse; "they" are able to observe all branches.

Since all possible events or outcomes, or branches of humanity are available for "they" to traverse, this implies that branching is in fact finite and not infinite. Therefore, normal humanity experiences limited free will as opposed to unlimited free will; i.e. choices are limited even though a certain route branches to transcending space and time.

Since the branching of humanity and creation of many worlds is limited and finite, and since blight is threatening to destroy an entire branch of creation, "they", decide to rescue normal humanity to ensure the continued branching of many worlds.

Why would "they" want to create branching / many worlds?

Well, "they" are humanity which stemmed from normal humanity in the first place from an earlier branch. Perhaps love is the one thing that transcends space and time and "they" desire to love?

Perhaps "they" feel being alone and one is lonely perhaps the 'one' requires the 'many' to express love? Many and one have several themes many worlds via quantum mechanics, many outcomes explained by Murphy’s Law, and quite literally many worlds visited; i.e. Miller/Mann/Edmunds.

Nature is created and manifested in fractal branching patterns (http://www.miqel.com/fractals_math_patt ... ctals.html), by ill-executed actions of limited free will, normal humanity threatens destruction of a fractal branch which they decide to restore?

More evolved, "they" have transcended time. If time is transcended, free will cannot exist. If time is a physical dimension which allows "they" to navigate to all events past, present and future; this presupposes all events have already occurred and "they" simply move from event-to-event, from one point in time to another.

Everything that can happen, has happened. Therefore, "they", even though evolved, no longer have free will to create further events, thereby are no longer able to create further branches of realities.

Hence, the fractal branching stops for "they" due to no free will, and the fractal branching in another route is also stopping due to blight. Perhaps, this is another motivation for "they" to rescue normal humanity to ensure continued evolution?

But, if "they" have no free will, how are "they" able to create a rescue event? The rescue event is created by "they" in normal humanity's branch of existence; i.e. placing of wormhole nearby Saturn, and a tesseract nearby/within Gargantua. Normal humanity then devises and pursues plans A and B.

The tesseract placed in the bulk of normal humanity's space-time allows Cooper, via gravitational messaging, to interact with normal humanity's space-time. This interaction is expressed additionally with time as physical dimension on top of normal humanity's branch so that Cooper is able to traverse and message normal humanity's space-time events.

Continued evolution may be a theme: "Mankind was born on Earth, it wasn't meant to die here" / "We're explorers, not caretakers" / etc. "Our destiny lies above us" may also elude to predestination, hence themes of free will.

iceman1 wrote:Actually, Jonathan recently updated info on this, Cooper just dies in Gargantua after transmitting the data, the wormhole closes and he doesn't even get to know if he was successful!

http://nerdist.com/jonathan-nolans-endi ... ore-sense/

Then Jonathan Nolan agrees with my interpretation:

https://moviusdudem.wordpress.com/inter ... -deception

vox.zeit wrote:Murphy’s Law: anything that can happen, will happen. This may be an indication towards the quantum mechanics theory of many worlds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worl ... rpretation

This simply means that our daily actions, our free will, creates multiple realities, multiple branches of existence, many worlds, multiverses.

You could for instance be served tea and coffee, and elect with your free will to choose coffee; however, in an alternate branch, you picked tea. This creates two realities or branches. Hence, every action, every invocation of our free will leads to a creation of new a branch of parallel existence, leading to possibly infinite branching like a fractal.

This choice making ability, this free will, which creates multiple branches of reality, can be illustrated as follows: http://rosettacode.org/mw/images/a/a3/F ... ee_bbc.gif

In one branch, humanity suffers blight, the Earth is dying and extinction looms. In another branch, humanity has progressed, evolved and transcended above space and time.

The transcended humanity, or referred to as "they", are able to traverse time as a physical dimension.

Like normal humanity, "they" are able to travel through space backwards and forwards, and in all other directions. However, the difference is that "they" can also travel to events in time whether backwards or forwards.

This time-travel is not a literal one whereby previous events can be altered creating paradoxes. Rather, all events which can happen, have happened. Murphy’s Law from this perspective has happened, not will happen.

All possible potential branches of reality have occurred. All events across space and time as observable by "they" have already occurred, and are available for "they" to traverse; "they" are able to observe all branches.

Since all possible events or outcomes, or branches of humanity are available for "they" to traverse, this implies that branching is in fact finite and not infinite. Therefore, normal humanity experiences limited free will as opposed to unlimited free will; i.e. choices are limited even though a certain route branches to transcending space and time.

Since the branching of humanity and creation of many worlds is limited and finite, and since blight is threatening to destroy an entire branch of creation, "they", decide to rescue normal humanity to ensure the continued branching of many worlds.

Why would "they" want to create branching / many worlds?

Well, "they" are humanity which stemmed from normal humanity in the first place from an earlier branch. Perhaps love is the one thing that transcends space and time and "they" desire to love?

Perhaps "they" feel being alone and one is lonely perhaps the 'one' requires the 'many' to express love? Many and one have several themes many worlds via quantum mechanics, many outcomes explained by Murphy’s Law, and quite literally many worlds visited; i.e. Miller/Mann/Edmunds.

Nature is created and manifested in fractal branching patterns (http://www.miqel.com/fractals_math_patt ... ctals.html), by ill-executed actions of limited free will, normal humanity threatens destruction of a fractal branch which they decide to restore?

More evolved, "they" have transcended time. If time is transcended, free will cannot exist. If time is a physical dimension which allows "they" to navigate to all events past, present and future; this presupposes all events have already occurred and "they" simply move from event-to-event, from one point in time to another.

Everything that can happen, has happened. Therefore, "they", even though evolved, no longer have free will to create further events, thereby are no longer able to create further branches of realities.

Hence, the fractal branching stops for "they" due to no free will, and the fractal branching in another route is also stopping due to blight. Perhaps, this is another motivation for "they" to rescue normal humanity to ensure continued evolution?

But, if "they" have no free will, how are "they" able to create a rescue event? The rescue event is created by "they" in normal humanity's branch of existence; i.e. placing of wormhole nearby Saturn, and a tesseract nearby/within Gargantua. Normal humanity then devises and pursues plans A and B.

The tesseract placed in the bulk of normal humanity's space-time allows Cooper, via gravitational messaging, to interact with normal humanity's space-time. This interaction is expressed additionally with time as physical dimension on top of normal humanity's branch so that Cooper is able to traverse and message normal humanity's space-time events.

Continued evolution may be a theme: "Mankind was born on Earth, it wasn't meant to die here" / "We're explorers, not caretakers" / etc. "Our destiny lies above us" may also elude to predestination, hence themes of free will.

Are you a physicist? I have never seen an explanation like this. I have studied relativity but your explanation simply went over my head.

that interpretation is dope and very well organized and worded. however i disagree with the use of the word "normal" humanity. if the bang bang, for example, as the first root of what would become fractal branches, "they" would not perceive (and "we" would not be) "normal" humanity, but rather one of countless branches that "they" are acting to preserve. the question becomes why are they preserving this branch? i would say the likely answer to that is that "they" are direct descendants of the "we/cooper" fractal branch... one of many groups of descendants that have transcended time and space and are in a state of living, as you put it, without free will. almost like the end of the fractal tree. they are preserving their past to ensure their own survival - which brings us back to the more classic version of the time-travel story interwoven in interstellar's unique fractal tree. great stuff.

in this fractal tree theory there would undoubtedly be "decisions" made by humanity that brought an end to that fractal tree. blight would have/could have been simply one of many possible ends to possible humankind existences. but i say bullshit to that, because i don't believe that in the interstellar universe there is only one intelligent lifeform out there. they're just the only one we encounter in the story, just like we are the only ones we have ever encountered in real life. humanities have certainly died off from more than just blight in this fractal tree, but the tree continues because their are other forms of life in the universe creating more and more branches. this helps support the idea that "they" are simply, as the movie suggests, descendants of "we" and they are part of the classic sci-fi time loop

Id like to think that it was the goddamn Batman who created the wormhole from the future!