Law_of_4 wrote:Vader182 wrote:
First off, the one order we see Talia give Bane the entire movie, he not only completely ignored, about five seconds after she left the room, he did the complete fucking opposite. Considering getting revenge on Bruce was a huge part of her motivations, Bane disobeying is kind of a huge deal. Bane isn't anybody's bitch.
Second, it's a massive assumption Bane was "perving" on anyone and an unfortunately simplistic view of the various kinds of affection. Anytime an adult feels compelled to fight for a young girl (or boy) out of compassion and love as a means to seek self-redemption it's perverted? That's absolutely preposterous and somewhat perverted yourself- distortion of corruption of intent. You're totally right, Christopher Nolan wrote the villain in his new movie as a pervert. Come on, you can do better.
Baniac wrote:Queen of Hearts wrote:
True! Two very amazing scenes!
Wanted to add this really quick.. for anybody else that has the time to read this.. could you please tell me if this was actually written by a fan or is it from the novelization? I know it is labeled fan fiction.. but Im wondering if they copied from the novelization..It's a written description of that ending scene with Batman, Bane and Talia:-) It talks a lot about Bane's character. It's from his perspective. Thanks! I might repost this in the novelization thread, but since Im not sure it goes there Im going to post it here too, because it talks about Bane's character:-)
Just saw your post..had to add:-) I dont see it that way at all.. I see them as working together. In fact, if you have a chance check out that link I posted. You might view the relationship in a different way. Im still unsure of what type of relationship they actually have, but I have to say whoever wrote that summary in the above link, wrote it from a very interesting point.
No, that is not from the novelization.
Queen of Hearts: I agree totally with your perception of Bane/Talia's relationship. That was an even partnership. They both had the same goals and motivations. Bane was the braver of the two because he was out there for the world to see while Talia lurked in the shadows. I would be curious to know, out of the people who feel angry about Bane possibly being subservient to Talia, how many are men. Seems like men have an issue with a tough guy like Bane having a soft spot (taking care of a child/woman), like that somehow makes him weak. To me, that very thing is what makes him strong. Caring only about yourself and bashing people's heads in for your own gain is selfish. Caring/protecting someone else and doing the hard work (the heavy lifting, if you will) are the traits of a strong, noble personality.
Interesting points:-) Also, I think most people had the perception that Bane would just be a brute villain, no emotion, just a wrecking ball.. in a lot of cases he IS a wrecking ball and brutal, but I think the fact that he also showed emotion when so clearly many people thought he wouldn't really affected some people's perception of him. Because he did show emotion and even had tears in his eyes at one point...maybe it was the pain from the gas wearing off, maybe it was hearing Talia's story whatever the case may be..he is human..but that emotional element somehow also made him weak to some people. Even though Bane was brutal and dark, commanding and terrifying, there still was a human being in there. Bane can feel compassion, he did so with Talia, but that does not make him 'weak.' His ideology, methods, tactics, actions may have been brutal but he really believed in what he was doing and the purpose he served, no matter how misguided that purpose was. He is definitely one of the most complex villains to grace the screen:-) He is the perfect mix of terror and complexity.