Dark Nolan wrote:^^ yep, Catwoman is out of discussion - the character is spoiled
remember that movie with Halle Berry?
Come on, its Nolan: if Catwoman is in this movie then I'm sure his Catwoman would be awesome.
I doubt that she'll be in it though. I don't see how she'll be in the story.
My thoughts exactly. I just think Catwoman has been made into pure cheese in her film portrayals that I've completely lost faith in Catwoman as a serious character at all.
Bueller wrote:So none of you think Nolan could turn the character into a serious, credible villain?
I do. I just don't see how she would work into the story and themes of the character.
Well, that's fair enough. I was more baffled by people writing her off because of a lousy film adaptation of the character that really had little to do with the actual comic book creation anyway. By that logic nobody should've bothered with Batman at all - after all, Batman & Robin reduced his character to 'pure cheese.'
Harvey Dent and Scare Crow didn't threaten him physically. A psychological female villain is absolutely fine.
To you the villain is fine. To me it's a bad joke. Dent and Scarecrow aren't 5'6 and don't wear skin tight leather; Catwoman does. The villain can be psychological, but it should also be physically threatening; which a woman is not in comparison to Bale. Think about it, a face to face stare down with Batman and a female; it's anit-climatic.
Harvey Dent and Scare Crow didn't threaten him physically. A psychological female villain is absolutely fine.
To you the villain is fine. To me it's a bad joke. Dent and Scarecrow aren't 5'6 and don't wear skin tight leather; Catwoman does. The villain can be psychological, but it should also be physically threatening; which a woman is not in comparison to Bale. Think about it, a face to face stare down with Batman and a female; it's anit-climatic.
I'm not saying the villain should be Catwoman. Take your sexism out of here.
chee wrote:I'm not saying the villain should be Catwoman. Take your sexism out of here.
Women can't be physically threatening. Please.
Annie Wilkes gave me nightmares.
The more I think about it, the more I think a female villain, a good female villain, would be really refreshing for the comic genre. They have, sadly, been something of a joke in the past and I imagine attitudes like 'women can't be threatening' have played no small part in that.
I just think Catwoman has been made into pure cheese in her film portrayals that I've completely lost faith in Catwoman as a serious character at all.
