Why are there shadows going across batman in his last scene

The 2012 superhero epic about Batman's struggle to overcome the terrorist leader Bane, as well as his own inner demons.
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trying to put this problem to the side and understand why there are shadows going across batman while he is in the bat if he is in the ocean. or is this an editing trick nolan pulled over us to get us to bite and believe he is accepting fate and going towards his demise.

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cmon people i want some theories!!

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I don't see what it could be.. we see a shot of the Bat just after and there's nothing beside it. Might as well be some clouds covering up the sun, that's all I can suggest

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The shadows are actually one of the key pieces of evidence in the two Bats theory.

Let's tackle this in chronological order. Early in the movie, Fox shows Bruce the Bat and says "and yes, it does come in black." In one shot, you can see that the Bat being shown to Bruce has a camouflage pattern. So, if the vehicle comes in black and the one Bruce's looking at has a different colour scheme, it's easy to assume that there are multiple Bats that were developed. Just like the Tumbler.

When Batman is carrying the nuke, muttering about how you just can't get rid of a bomb, it shows him flying towards a construction site. Of course, the building gets blown up, and we see the Bat fly through the explosion, carrying the bomb to safety. Note how after that shot, there are none that show the whole Bat and Batman in the cockpit at the same time. Of course, there's also the fact that he could have easily maneuvered around the building, that's what the Bat is designed for.

Now, the theory is basically that Batman got out of the Bat at the construction site, turned on the auto-pilot and got into a spare Bat. While everyone's eyes are drawn to the Bat with the nuke (a possible reason for the explosion, to attract attention to it), Bruce flies away in the second Bat.

Those shadows are buildings he's flying past.

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darthnazgul wrote:The shadows are actually one of the key pieces of evidence in the two Bats theory.

Let's tackle this in chronological order. Early in the movie, Fox shows Bruce the Bat and says "and yes, it does come in black." In one shot, you can see that the Bat being shown to Bruce has a camouflage pattern. So, if the vehicle comes in black and the one Bruce's looking at has a different colour scheme, it's easy to assume that there are multiple Bats that were developed. Just like the Tumbler.

When Batman is carrying the nuke, muttering about how you just can't get rid of a bomb, it shows him flying towards a construction site. Of course, the building gets blown up, and we see the Bat fly through the explosion, carrying the bomb to safety. Note how after that shot, there are none that show the whole Bat and Batman in the cockpit at the same time. Of course, there's also the fact that he could have easily maneuvered around the building, that's what the Bat is designed for.

Now, the theory is basically that Batman got out of the Bat at the construction site, turned on the auto-pilot and got into a spare Bat. While everyone's eyes are drawn to the Bat with the nuke (a possible reason for the explosion, to attract attention to it), Bruce flies away in the second Bat.

Those shadows are buildings he's flying past.
i think this is the most plausible theory. because if we believe he is still in the bat with the bomb then he isnt going to survive, there is just no time to escape. ive also heard of an ejection pod, but i dont buy it because the bat is to small. btw love the metal gear gif

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The PURPOSE of that last shot of Batman's face looking like he's accepting death was shown to make the us, the audience, believe he was gonna die. Which of course begs the question of what was the shot ACTUALLY showing. Though I personally have somewhat of a hard time accepting the second Bat theory, and here's why: it wouldn't make sense considering Bruce was trying to fake his death. In order for him to get into a second Bat, he obviously had to have first ejected from the bomb-carrying one, which we know he did. But why would he even get into another Bat and fly away? People could've and would've seen this other Bat flying through the city. It would've made a lot more sense if, after ejecting, Bruce just walked amongst the shadows or alleys until he reached Selina's apartment. (Like many fanfics have portrayed, I believe that after he ejected, he made his way to Selina's place, keeping a low profile along the way so no one would recognize/see him.) I don't see what flying another Bat covertly through the city would have accomplished.

So what do I think the shadows were from? Buildings. Yet this doesn't make any sense chronologically considering how the entire sequence was edited together. :crazy:

The only other theory I have heard of is that the final shots of Batman in the "Bat" were just Blake's imagination, or what Blake was thinking as he saw Batman fly the bomb. Because Nolan made a point to keep on cutting back to Blake's reaction, which was immediately followed by Batman's "accepting of death" look. Personally I don't believe this theory, but it's a remote possibility that has been suggested elsewhere, that what we saw was just Blake's thoughts. Though I don't believe this at all.

But I will say this - lately I have lost faith in the idea of an escape pod being deployed, because when we see the Bat flying out of the smoke and towards the bridge, it looks totally intact and it doesn't look like it is missing a part that might suggest that any section of it was disattached. And yeah the Bat is rather small/skinny and it has a rotor on the underside, so I don't see how an escape pod would make sense. For the longest time I used to think that Bruce ejected into an escape pod, but I now doubt that an escape pod could have been the case.

So at this point I have no idea anymore. I just think those last shots of Batman were inserted in by Nolan to throw us off, or maybe they were just flashbacks of when he was still in the city. Either way they were editing tricks to make us think Batman was gonna die. There's just not enough solid, concrete evidence to fully support a second bat or an escape pod or any other theory.

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nolangoatdirector wrote:Either way they were editing tricks to make us think Batman was gonna die. There's just not enough solid, concrete evidence to fully support a second bat or an escape pod or any other theory.
It's the most logical explanation. "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

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i have watched the last ten miutes of this film an embarringlessly x amout of time. now with the rules of the bomb laid out in the movie being a 4 megaton nuclear bomb with a radius of 6 miles. batman probably has 90 seconds to get it 6 miles. so if he didnt eject when the building exploded there is zero chance he survived or maybe when he gets to the gotham bay..but he would have been seen. i guess what im driving at is batman in the cockpit has to be editing manipulation because he would have perished otherwise

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the crimson elephant wrote:i have watched the last ten miutes of this film an embarringlessly x amout of time. now with the rules of the bomb laid out in the movie being a 4 megaton nuclear bomb with a radius of 6 miles. batman probably has 90 seconds to get it 6 miles. so if he didnt eject when the building exploded there is zero chance he survived or maybe when he gets to the gotham bay..but he would have been seen. i guess what im driving at is batman in the cockpit has to be editing manipulation because he would have perished otherwise
Exactly; there's no way he ejected out over the water. He ejected while he was still in the city as he blew up that building. My question about the second Bat theory is, why would he even get into another Bat? It makes no sense for him to needlessly climb into another Bat after having ejected and then fly away considering he needed people to think Batman died carrying the bomb. He needed people to think that both Bruce and Batman were dead. As such, he would need to keep a low profile and for him to climb into a second Bat and fly through the city makes no sense as he would be discovered or seen. I still think that the last shot of Batman was just inserted by Nolan to trick us.

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i am seriously thinking about what somefrenchtoast said about the shadows being clouds and he just didnt make it. he sacrificed himself. and also looking at the scar on his head in florence looks like it has a horizontal line through it...it should have been just vertical. damn i cant believe im saying this but he really died. :batface: :suicide:

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