[SPOILERS] Plot Holes

[Vader182]

Guns are fucking loud. In fact, they're so fucking loud, even with a silencer, they're loud. They do not in fact, make a "pew pew" sound, and it would be extremely easy to hear a weapon fired featuring the iconic add-on. The entire plot of the vast majority of action movies relies on the "pew pew" and yet, nobody complains. We just accept it.

The logic behind criticizing the lack of realm in the film- specifically involving the climb and back break- fail to understand the necessary suspension of disbelief in any film.

People just love to bitch.

-Vader

[Joeyjojo72]

I think its fun to find plotholes and nitpick. All movies of this type have them, even the superior ones. It merely reinforces the fact that we are indeed watching an action/CB movie, albeit a relatively grounded one, and that there are certain conventions that are inherent in the genre. If there are some surreal moments, well maybe thats intentional. Or maybe its that bowl of sour diesel you just smoked.

That said, even the legit plotholes are really just editing choices that require the audience to fill in certain events or details. Nothing wrong with that.

[Golden Age]

See, this is what happens when someone tries to push the limits a lot.

Look at this guy's comment:

Yes, you are absolutely right about the whole metaphor thing.

And what a tired, sad, worn out metaphor that is!

Sorry, just could not get behind that whole prison thing and when something like the wall climb becomes a plot device that then has to be manipulated in order to get the metaphor across, I start getting bored.

The biggest problem for me when a director starts bending reality in order to fit his story line is that I stop trying to follow the story because now it can go anywhere. The whole movie then becomes surreal.

I might as well be watching Un Chien Andalou.

At least that is real art....

That same director is the director that scratched off stylized Gotham (where night is either eternal or Batman just only goes out at night; where villains (and the hero) can't die because they need to come back in some future comic book issue; where Gotham is pretty much the whole universe and world of the comic books and there isn't much wandering elsewhere) for the sake of realism.

So, concidering that and much more, a few climbing inaccuracies make the movie surreal? Please step away from the keyboard.

Obviously the more you try to push realism into your work the more the inclined towards negative criticism audience will question it when they shouldn't.

The person you're quoting also cites Un Chien Andalou as a reference, so anyone who's bringing up Bunuel probably expected this to be the high-art version of a comic book movie like TDR was, but instead, all they got was another silly nerd movie made for basement dwellers and casual moviegoers.It's clear as day to see why anyone who was expecting something a bit more than just another generic comic book movie filled with cheesy one liners and monologuing villains would be disappointed with it.

It's easy to take plot holes at face value in other comic book movies because they don't expect you to take them seriously anyways, but the Nolan Batman films were supposed to be so much more yet to many, the final instalment did away with many of the things that made them unique from other nerd movies.

[Based4Life]

See, this is what happens when someone tries to push the limits a lot.

Look at this guy's comment:



That same director is the director that scratched off stylized Gotham (where night is either eternal or Batman just only goes out at night; where villains (and the hero) can't die because they need to come back in some future comic book issue; where Gotham is pretty much the whole universe and world of the comic books and there isn't much wandering elsewhere) for the sake of realism.

So, concidering that and much more, a few climbing inaccuracies make the movie surreal? Please step away from the keyboard.

Obviously the more you try to push realism into your work the more the inclined towards negative criticism audience will question it when they shouldn't.

The person you're quoting also cites Un Chien Andalou as a reference, so anyone who's bringing up Bunuel probably expected this to be the high-art version of a comic book movie like TDR was, but instead, all they got was another silly nerd movie made for basement dwellers and casual moviegoers.It's clear as day to see why anyone who was expecting something a bit more than just another generic comic book movie filled with cheesy one liners and monologuing villains would be disappointed with it.

It's easy to take plot holes at face value in other comic book movies because they don't expect you to take them seriously anyways, but the Nolan Batman films were supposed to be so much more yet to many, the final instalment did away with many of the things that made them unique from other nerd movies.

Go away.

[Aryakel]

This isn't correct. I have 3 and am <30 in very good health. Consulting with sports physiatrists, therapists, surgeons, etc. First off, we're meant to believe that his injury is far more severe that a herniated or protruded disc. Second, chiropractic therapy is quack stuff at best with little resolution long-term and certainly none in the short term. Third, you can't "push" a disc back into place. Even if you are blindly unaware of the pain (unlikely) / strong enough to ignore it and you're the freaking batman of recovery, this still doesn't make any sense. Especially given that his herniation wouldn't be a broad-base protrusion like you're suggesting given the cause of his injury. The human body is incredible, especially when coupled with a determined mind and focused work - but his injury and recovery were ridiculous.

This complaint, while valid in real world medical projections, has two faults 1. the severity of a lower back protrusion like this can vary quite extensively and since the spinal column ends in the upper lumbar region the intensity of recovery of anything injured below that can be surprisingly fast (source: I'm studying medicine) and 2. TDKR is a movie, it doesn't, nor should it have to, follow precise medical protocol. There are plenty of moments in the first two that ignore or stretch medical concepts and consistencies. Necessarily, the film requires a certain suspension of disbelief (not just on this point either). But the true trickery and genius of Nolan comes in the fact that, while you're watching, you don't notice that need, you're not consciously aware of that suspension; it's only when you finish watching that you realize something was actually strange.

[Joeyjojo72]

You are waaaaay overstating the differences between TDK and TDKR. The flaws you are pointing out also existed in that film, and for the most part are inherent in the genre. Nolan's films are realistic only in comparison to other superhero movies.

TDK wasnt a complete departure from the action/CBM template. Not even close actually. There was plenty of one-liners and monologuing in TDK, simplistic and cliched characterizations (basically all the mob bosses), and "unrealistic" action bits. Plus, yknow, the rich dude dressing like a bat and beating up criminals. Still a great film though.

[prince0gotham]

As I sad, I checked the camrip and didn't see anything that he could use to go up from the 1st and lowest platfrom up to the top.

I also got worried by people asking why wouldn't the prisoners kill the rope guy and just pull each other up to the top and decided to make this graph to show any doubters why:

[Hustler]

There are no plot holes in The Dark Knight Rises. Reporting you all for trolling/antagonizing.

[anikom15]

Joey is like Switzerland.

[immature]

How Bruce knew or guess the child was R'as Al Ghul's.

Only one person ever escaped the prison, Bruce is told. Bruce thought/assumed that person was Bane--born and raised in hell on earth.

The story the Tom Conti and doctor characters told informed him or led him to guess R'as was the mercenary whose child was born in the pit and that this extraordinary child escaped. Bruce assumed Bane was the child.