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Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 12:42 pm
by Eternalist
George wrote:Although I do agree that it seemed like it came out of nowhere and wished they handled it differently.
The technology WAS used earlier in the film in a similar fashion and it was explicitly stated that Wayne Industries was developing the technology from a military contract. In that case, I don't think it would be a "deus ex machina" situation.

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 12:52 pm
by TeddyBlass
Expanding (and possibly weakening) your plot to strengthen your subtext is not only risky, but a little self-serving for the writer, no?

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 1:11 pm
by rbevanx
Eternalist wrote:
George wrote:Although I do agree that it seemed like it came out of nowhere and wished they handled it differently.
The technology WAS used earlier in the film in a similar fashion and it was explicitly stated that Wayne Industries was developing the technology from a military contract. In that case, I don't think it would be a "deus ex machina" situation.

George clearly didn't read my post.
ek79 wrote:
rbevanx wrote:I think there should be "informative" podcasts and "opinionated" podcasts.
My point too.
Lol I never said that.

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 3:10 pm
by Eternalist
I find it interesting how they're going to put out trailers without revealing many plot details. The trailers of yesteryear were able to do it, but nowadays, people want to know EVERYTHING about a film before they go and see it.

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 3:36 pm
by George
rbevanx wrote: George clearly didn't read my post.
I did...

Regardless if the technology had been used earlier in the film, a machine of that magnitude and complexity most certainly had not.
It was mentioned at some point that Bruce was working on some mysterious machine. It's not necessarily the appearance of the machine that bugs me, it's more the circumstances surrounding its ambiguous construction by Bruce in such a short time.

I'm sort of nitpicking here because I didn't find it to be a huge deal, but really my only complaints with The Dark Knight relate to the aspect of "keeping things close to the chest." (and thus, I really didn't like how they handled Gordon's fake death and the ambiguity behind Bruce's construction of the sonar machine)

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 3:53 pm
by ek79
ek79 wrote:
rbevanx wrote:I think there should be "informative" podcasts and "opinionated" podcasts.
My point too.
rbevanx wrote:Lol I never said that.
Sorry, it was Eternalist. My mistake 8-)

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 6:08 pm
by George
Glad to see some variety between the favorite Nolan film you all picked. Although I guess I was surprised by all the Insomnia love.
If I remember correctly...

Chris
1. Memento
2. Insomnia
Teddy
1. The Prestige
2. Insomnia
Alex
1. The Dark Knight
2/3. The Prestige/Memento

I think Insomnia is great (definitely underrated by most people), but still not near Nolan's best work.

I'm:
1. The Prestige
2. Memento
3. The Dark Knight

Insomnia would probably be my #4 then.

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 6:56 pm
by Eternalist
George wrote:I think Insomnia is great (definitely underrated by most people), but still not near Nolan's best work
I think Insomnia is underrated along with Following (but that's because most people haven't, and are never going to, see it). I think it gets a lot of flack for being a remake. But one thing almost everyone can agree on, the cinematography was fantastic.

Re: Episode 6: Get Off on Avatar - September 7, 2009

Posted: September 9th, 2009, 11:08 pm
by TeddyBlass
I think it gets flack because it's a remake, and Nolan didn't write the screenplay. But it's a really well told and crafted film. The Nolan hand-print is there to see.