@Alex you're right about the depth. great post. a theme or a number of themes have barely anything to do with the deepness of a movie... Why? Because like I said... a theme addresses the general and not the details. Details give depth in a movie.
Samsara17 wrote:A screenplay is literature, it is a work of fiction that is written, and Nolan spent about 5 years writting the screenplay for the Prestige. He put a lot of effort into adapting this story, and to say his work isn't literature seems like an insult to Nolan imo.
Literature: the art of written works
Screenplay: a written work that is made especially for a film
So yes, it is literature.
1. There's no disrespect to Nolan. Stop bringing Nolan into this like his name means something in this debate... You think Nolan is the only one who spent 5 years writing something? And let me tell you that Nolan didn't spent 5 years writing a screenplay. I think if you add the hours he spent writing that screenplay you don't get more than 1 month. It's just that in that time of 5 years he built the story for The Prestige. He had other movies in development in that same time, he had to write stories for other movies in that same time etc. So don't tell me that he spent 5 years like it's a big deal. For your knowledge there are writers, real writers, that spend 5 years writing a book and they write daily for hours... That is literature. That is hard work and 5 years spent on writing a novel. It's like people thinking that Nolan really spent 10 years writing the screen for Inception. lol. He never said that.
2. You bolded that fits your theory but left unbolded the part that fits mine. Here's how I would bold those definitions...Literature:
of written worksScreenplay:
a written work that is made especially for a film
It's not the same approach in writing. You can't say a novel and a screenplay are the same. They are not. They have tons of differences. They are not even written in the same way and using the same style.
Samsara17 wrote:Again, you aren't giving the "themes" the credit they deserve.
There's no credit that they deserve. If there is a theme in that movie it is, if not, then it isn't. It's that simple.
Samsara17 wrote:You're argument is that they don't appear in the story enough to qualify them as themes, my argument is they do in fact appear enough to give them the title of themes.
No they are not. Just because you felt a little emotion and you felt like "oh.. nice way of approaching love here" doesn't mean they are themes.
Do you really don't understand the concept that based on your judgment ANY movie will have 20 themes? What message impresses you in a story doesn't necessarily mean it's a theme...
Samsara17 wrote:but if you want you can always watch the film again, analyze it with them in mind, and try to see how they present themselves in the story of the characters.
I watched the film. Trust me, The Prestige touches a lot of areas and issues, however not all these areas or issues are themes.
I don't complicate things, on the contrary I make them easier. I don't go that deep to say a movie has 10 themes because It's not possible and it would just provide chaos and recklessness in my mind because then any movie will have a million themes because I felt they touched 100 different sensitive or smart areas or issues. I don't do that. I keep it easier and "by the book".
Stay close to the format and don't lose yourself into details unless it's required to.