waverz wrote:I disagree with the failure to bring in emotions. This has become a basic issue nowadays. Critics complain lack of humor in a thriller. They complain lack of pace in a drama. It just does not add up. If you compare TSN with inception one can very well say TSN does not have many things that Inception has and vice versa. Comparing across genres and expecting the same set of elements in a movie is not right. A horror movie will never win then. That just begs the question whether Art only means drama? And I simply cant agree that there were 5 better directors than nolan this year.

hoppity-kick wrote:

DreamArchitect wrote:SNUB I seriously hate that term. Unless you're discussing how Brokeback Mountain was robbed because of the Academy's homophobia or how Saving Private Ryan lost to Shakespeare in Love etc. Can't we just not criticize these other talented directors? Can't we just agree that Nolan was not snubbed and that he just simply lost to six other worthy contenders? Besides, he's already nominated for Best Screenplay and Best Picture. There is no hate. The Academy does not hate Nolan. Or else they would have shoved Nolan away from a screenplay nod and given it to Black Swan instead. Just celebrate the fact that he's already getting twice the recognition already. I admit that the directing was good but not as great. Yes he spent 10 years writing a script, yes he produced the film, but they are judging on directing. His major flaw was that he failed to execute complex emotional values and themes into his story and characters. That's the thing I wish Nolan did. Just like he did with Memento. It was a very emotional storyline, and it worked well.

Just ask yourself, what if the Academy is waiting for Nolan to give his greatest acheivement? I cannot wait for that year.

Disagree, specifically the failure of executing complex emotional values and themes into his story and characters. Many film critics will disagree with you (like Kermode, Ebert and Roeper) Even film directors will disagree with you (DGA nom as a proof). Heck, even an ordinary film buff like me will disagree with you (do I need to prove that everyone is enraged with the SNUB?)
He is very much deserving this time. Just like with The Dark Knight. It's not that his competition is not good. He's just better. Yes... even better against Fincher and Aronofsky.

Composer Hans Zimmer, nominated for his original score for Inception, said of his omission: "I think he was held up at gunpoint.

"My instinct tells me that because it was a commercial success, suddenly they took the idea of artfulness away from him.

"I think if the Academy wants to stay current ... they need to go and look at these things very carefully. I've worked with a lot of directors. There are few directors that are in the class of a Chris Nolan ... It's not right."

DreamArchitect wrote: Well I was enraged with the 'snub' also. But what about the other talented directors nominated? I understand your hope for this. But one reason why I'm feeling gracious about it is because there is nothing you can do now. The nominations have been set. BUT don't give up hope for best original screenplay. The Academy could either pull an Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and choose Inception for its originality and concept or they can pull a Milk and choose The King's Speech of TKAAR because more meaningful scripts is the trend the Academy has been choosing lately.

waverz wrote:I disagree with the failure to bring in emotions. This has become a basic issue nowadays. Critics complain lack of humor in a thriller. They complain lack of pace in a drama. It just does not add up. If you compare TSN with inception one can very well say TSN does not have many things that Inception has and vice versa. Comparing across genres and expecting the same set of elements in a movie is not right. A horror movie will never win then. That just begs the question whether Art only means drama? And I simply cant agree that there were 5 better directors than nolan this year.

hoppity-kick wrote:

DreamArchitect wrote: Well I was enraged with the 'snub' also. But what about the other talented directors nominated? I understand your hope for this. But one reason why I'm feeling gracious about it is because there is nothing you can do now. The nominations have been set. BUT don't give up hope for best original screenplay. The Academy could either pull an Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and choose Inception for its originality and concept or they can pull a Milk and choose The King's Speech of TKAAR because more meaningful scripts is the trend the Academy has been choosing lately.

Maybe were discussing subjectivity here. All of the directors nominated are undeniably talented. But let me ask you this. How about the most VISIONARY director of them all? How about giving him an honor for the most wonderfully executed film. How about the most deserving recipient of them all?

DreamArchitect wrote: You've got a point. There are two voices in my mind: One says, The Academy should recognise Nolan because he's visionary. The other says But Best Director isn't about the visuals. It's about how the director portrays his/her message and evokes certain target responses in their work.

DreamArchitect wrote: Side note: You missed out Quentin Tarantino in your signature!

hoppity-kick wrote:

DreamArchitect wrote: You've got a point. There are two voices in my mind: One says, The Academy should recognise Nolan because he's visionary. The other says But Best Director isn't about the visuals. It's about how the director portrays his/her message and evokes certain target responses in their work.

Uh, I think GREAT VISUALS doesn't imply VISIONARY. I think it's all about IMAGINATION. of course Imagination is not exclusive to visuals only. Again it's about letting us experience that great vision. And of course, as Ariadne would say, it's more of a feeling than visuals.
Then again, you didn't feel the emotional core of Inception. I guess that's why you don't see that Nolan was snubbed once again. That term is very appropriate, at least for me.