First off, the fanboy thing. I continuously kept asking you on your poisonspreading channel about how come you keep talking about hypocricy and fanboysm AND at the same time, accusing Nolanfans of fanboyism, concidering you were the one talking about TRUE BATMAN FANS. I mean if you want to turn this into nothing more than a fanboy war at least admit that it is exactly and only that. And if you actually do then one of the things I'm gonna say is that - those of us that are being blind fanboys at least are blind fanboys towards a person and not a franchise.
And while I'm on that topic, jesus, movies don't take truth and history 100% seriously and you want them to take BATMAN seriously and accurately in the way you want em to? I mean, not that Nolan isn't taking the icon seriously at all, as a matter of fact there can be no other reason than that for him deciding to create a realistic take on whatever Batman stood for and did and to compile it into a sense-making package that has a clear and definitive beginning and a clear and definitive end, unlike anything that's ever done before with the Batman universe, ever. I mean really, which other animated series, trilogy or life action movies ever did tell the whole (interpretation of, because even Burton's Batman were interpretations) story.
So when I ask you what you think's so wrong with the realistic take, don't give me movieworld's bullshit about how if he wanted realism he'd turn CNN on or whatever, cuz you just can't explain things like that. On a little different note - tell me why you don't realise how groundbreaking and revolutionary this is for the superhero genre. I mean to turn a superhero (the most realistic superhero anyway) into a realistic concept in a realistic and somehow believable way that actually works. That's amazing in both worlds - the movie and the comic book one, and you have to be something more than just the fan of a comic book icon to realize and love that. I mean how on earth could you be so blind to all the oppportunities this opens and offers to anything superhero related.
I love how you're supposed to rape hollywood but fail completely when raping it requires not being a "TRUE BATMAN FAN", cuz apart from the blockbuster aspect of nolan's batman it's actually so much against the typical image of hollywood that I don't even know what you're doing actually bashing the movies. We've got as many or even more 'true batman fans' as you think you have, the difference isn't them being truer or not. The difference is them being way more interested in seeing something actually different and impressive and working and not banal or actually posessing some kind of justified banality. If that's going to require a less stylistic take that's actually grounded in the real world in many ways, one of which is it being horrifyingly actual and now, then those things can be nothing else but good. Yes I'm talking about terrorism. It's kind of predictable that you make it out to be propaganda or whatever, I mean what else could you possibly use as an argument against the realistic approach.
You constantly go on about how Nolan can't have you fooled and I wonder why would he want to 'fool' you? I mean what would he gain with any of this and how has he proved so far that he's that kind of person. I mean you think he's pro war or something or what? And if you think this qualifies as propaganda then what am I supposed NOT to believe then? That there's war in the east? That there's actual terrorism, for whatever reasons? That there's dictators that want to cleanse/dominate America (Gotham)? None of this is in any way more of a propaganda than say the fact that Bruce Wayne is american. Besides, you're acting like Nolan isn't critical to his main characters. On the contrary, his whole artistry and style is exactly being critical towards the main character through the appropriate set of existential truths pretty often used against that same character. All of Nolan's main characters are driven by obsession and all of them are constantly blamed for it. Yes, in the end you sympathize, in the end you feel how they can't help it and you yourself forget to criticize them, but he does. So if he does then how and why do you think that the inclusion of real life issues should necessarily be propaganda. The world's overly sensitive about this stuff as it is, it doesn't need you to add to it by proclaiming stuff as true propaganda while nothing really in the movie world is completely innocent in that aspect. Which reminds me that even the comics show Batman fighting against so much ridiculous... STUFF... I mean come on, some issues show him fighting against Ridley's Aliens and even Zombies... and I don't get how in the comic book world you're excused to mix and entwine the franchises (superhero leagues) but in the movie world you're not supposed to mix Batman and reality.
And exactly how else, once given that Batman could be grounded in reality, is someone to explain Batman's arsenal other than with military connections?
Oh and stop it with your GINGERS HAVE SOULS type of emotional outbreaks when you impersonate stuff. It gives us a lot of avatar/sig material.