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Post Based4Life August 2, 2012, 9:54 pm

BatMan528491 wrote:Not that I ever really ate at Chick-Fil-A anyway but I definitely won't now.

I will because that shits good.
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Post Bacon August 2, 2012, 9:56 pm

Based4Life wrote:I will because that shits good.

It truly is.

And why are people protesting now? Any restaurant that is closed on Sundays because they want their employees to go to Church is clearly a religious company. Why get worked up about it as if you didn't know? This whole protest against them is so stupid.
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Post Cilogy August 2, 2012, 9:57 pm

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BatMan528491 wrote:but I definitely won't now.

Seriously? :facepalm:
Ugh, this is so sad. People are overreacting so much. If a religion calls for someone to think that homosexuality is a sin, then people of that religion will consider it a sin. There's no point to overreact and boycott one company for following religious beliefs made more than a thousand years ago! No one boycotts Jews wearing yamachas (however you spell it) to school or work! It's a religious freedom to believe what you believe and act upon your beliefs. If C-F-A donates money to anti-gay companies (what pro-gays call "hate groups") that's them acting upon their beliefs, which should not be looked down upon or protested against. C-F-A has ALWAYS been a Christian and religious company. Why are people being this surprised?

In a way I agree, cuz it should be no surprise CFA is religious. The people boycotting think they are sending a message though, which while I think is a good message, this is sort of a pointless exercise. At the end of the day it's just one company and it doesn't really actively change anyone's held beliefs on either side.
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Post Bacon August 2, 2012, 10:03 pm

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Bacon wrote:Seriously? :facepalm:
Ugh, this is so sad. People are overreacting so much. If a religion calls for someone to think that homosexuality is a sin, then people of that religion will consider it a sin. There's no point to overreact and boycott one company for following religious beliefs made more than a thousand years ago! No one boycotts Jews wearing yamachas (however you spell it) to school or work! It's a religious freedom to believe what you believe and act upon your beliefs. If C-F-A donates money to anti-gay companies (what pro-gays call "hate groups") that's them acting upon their beliefs, which should not be looked down upon or protested against. C-F-A has ALWAYS been a Christian and religious company. Why are people being this surprised?

In a way I agree, cuz it should be no surprise CFA is religious. The people boycotting think they are sending a message though, which while I think is a good message, this is sort of a pointless exercise. At the end of the day it's just one company and it doesn't really actively change anyone's held beliefs on either side.

I respect your opinion, but I still disagree with this statement.

CFA will still win the argument most likely. There's nothing the gov/pro-gay people can do to stop them from putting their money where they want to. It's CFA's freaking money. Also, they make make a little bit less money, but they're still gonna get a ton. CFA is just that good.
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Post BatMan528491 August 2, 2012, 10:31 pm

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BatMan528491 wrote:but I definitely won't now.

Seriously? :facepalm:
Ugh, this is so sad. People are overreacting so much. If a religion calls for someone to think that homosexuality is a sin, then people of that religion will consider it a sin. There's no point to overreact and boycott one company for following religious beliefs made more than a thousand years ago! No one boycotts Jews wearing yamachas (however you spell it) to school or work! It's a religious freedom to believe what you believe and act upon your beliefs. If C-F-A donates money to anti-gay companies (what pro-gays call "hate groups") that's them acting upon their beliefs, which should not be looked down upon or protested against. C-F-A has ALWAYS been a Christian and religious company. Why are people being this surprised?


Yes, seriously.

I can respect everyone's freedom of speech in this country and their right to have their own beliefs, even though I may highly disagree with them at times, such as now.

But, how does Chick-Fil-A make money? From people that buy their food. What do they do with a certain amount of that money? Donate it to various anti-gay organizations. So, for me, I could not spend a dime at a place knowing very well that my money may or may not be used to help fund an anti-gay group.

I am not gay or bi but this is an issue that I do feel strongly about, and I cannot, in good conscience, give them a dime knowing where it would be going. I understand their right to donate the money, but I also know my right to not support it. And for me, simply just voicing my opinion and saying I do not support their opinion is not enough, I would feel like a hypocrite if I said that and yet still gave them my money.

Do I expect to make a difference? No. I am just one customer, I am sure Chick-Fil-A will be doing fine without me. Do I want Chick-Fil-A to run out of business because of what they do? To be honest, I could care less. I just know that this means I would absolutely not spend $5 or $30, whatever amount, not because I am trying to make a statement and spit in the face of Chick-Fil-A, but because I would have the knowledge of where my money is going, and I do not like it. If I did that I might as well just donate money to the groups myself.

Do I think I am overreacting? Not at all. It's just simply a matter of me not wanting my money to support things I am strongly against.

And the only thing that I find "so sad", to be honest, is the fact that this is even an issue at all.

But I barely ever eat fast-food or anything like it anyway, so this really wouldn't be that hard of a place to avoid.
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Post Bacon August 2, 2012, 10:40 pm

My problem is, Christianity demands that you act upon your beliefs. Tithing your money as an offering and such. If donating to a anti gay association is a way they act upon their belief, people shouldn't be against it. And they have the right to do so. So protestors should just GET OVER IT.

Also, for your argument, I understand your point but it is mainly obsolete. For all you know anywhere you go (lets say Wal-mart or even a theatre) you pay money to someone for a product. Part of that money is used to pay the employees. For all you know those employees could donate some of that money to a church, who donates it to an anti-gay association, or the employee donates it themselves. Your argument about where your money goes is invalid. According to your logic, you can't spend a dime pretty much anywhere.
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Post Cilogy August 2, 2012, 10:43 pm

BatMan528491 wrote:
Bacon wrote:Seriously? :facepalm:
Ugh, this is so sad. People are overreacting so much. If a religion calls for someone to think that homosexuality is a sin, then people of that religion will consider it a sin. There's no point to overreact and boycott one company for following religious beliefs made more than a thousand years ago! No one boycotts Jews wearing yamachas (however you spell it) to school or work! It's a religious freedom to believe what you believe and act upon your beliefs. If C-F-A donates money to anti-gay companies (what pro-gays call "hate groups") that's them acting upon their beliefs, which should not be looked down upon or protested against. C-F-A has ALWAYS been a Christian and religious company. Why are people being this surprised?


Yes, seriously.

I can respect everyone's freedom of speech in this country and their right to have their own beliefs, even though I may highly disagree with them at times, such as now.

But, how does Chick-Fil-A make money? From people that buy their food. What do they do with a certain amount of that money? Donate it to various anti-gay organizations. So, for me, I could not spend a dime at a place knowing very well that my money may or may not be used to help fund an anti-gay group.

I am not gay or bi but this is an issue that I do feel strongly about, and I cannot, in good conscience, give them a dime knowing where it would be going. I understand their right to donate the money, but I also know my right to not support it. And for me, simply just voicing my opinion and saying I do not support their opinion is not enough, I would feel like a hypocrite if I said that and yet still gave them my money.

Do I expect to make a difference? No. I am just one customer, I am sure Chick-Fil-A will be doing fine without me. Do I want Chick-Fil-A to run out of business because of what they do? To be honest, I could care less. I just know that this means I would absolutely not spend $5 or $30, whatever amount, not because I am trying to make a statement and spit in the face of Chick-Fil-A, but because I would have the knowledge of where my money is going, and I do not like it. If I did that I might as well just donate money to the groups myself.

Do I think I am overreacting? Not at all. It's just simply a matter of me not wanting my money to support things I am strongly against.

And the only thing that I find "so sad", to be honest, is the fact that this is even an issue at all.

But I barely ever eat fast-food or anything like it anyway, so this really wouldn't be that hard of a place to avoid.

Wow, really well said, that sort of what I'm thinking. :clap:
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Post Bacon August 2, 2012, 10:46 pm

Cilogy wrote:Wow, really well said


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Post BatMan528491 August 2, 2012, 10:47 pm

Bacon wrote:My problem is, Christianity demands that you act upon your beliefs. Tithing your money as an offering and such. If donating to a anti gay association is a way they act upon their belief, people shouldn't be against it. And they have the right to do so. So protestors should just GET OVER IT.

Also, for your argument, I understand your point but it is mainly obsolete. For all you know anywhere you go (lets say Wal-mart or even a theatre) you pay money to someone for a product. Part of that money is used to pay the employees. For all you know those employees could donate some of that money to a church, who donates it to an anti-gay association, or the employee donates it themselves. Your argument about where your money goes is invalid. According to your logic, you can't spend a dime pretty much anywhere.


It's a lot different when it's the company as a whole that is supporting it and donating money to the cause. If you don't understand why it is then I can't really explain it, it's just a moral issue for me that I couldn't do it.
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Post Bacon August 2, 2012, 10:51 pm

BatMan528491 wrote:
Bacon wrote:My problem is, Christianity demands that you act upon your beliefs. Tithing your money as an offering and such. If donating to a anti gay association is a way they act upon their belief, people shouldn't be against it. And they have the right to do so. So protestors should just GET OVER IT.

Also, for your argument, I understand your point but it is mainly obsolete. For all you know anywhere you go (lets say Wal-mart or even a theatre) you pay money to someone for a product. Part of that money is used to pay the employees. For all you know those employees could donate some of that money to a church, who donates it to an anti-gay association, or the employee donates it themselves. Your argument about where your money goes is invalid. According to your logic, you can't spend a dime pretty much anywhere.


It's a lot different when it's the company as a whole that is supporting it and donating money to the cause. If you don't understand why it is then I can't really explain it, it's just a moral issue for me that I couldn't do it.

Understandable, but this point (first paragraph) is still valid. If it's exercising religious beliefs, no one can do anything about it and should not look down upon it. You can disagree. Of course people have the right to disagree, but that doesn't make what the religious person/company is doing wrong.
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