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Religious Discussions
Cilogy wrote:Maybe I don't know enough about Islam to agree that it's necessarily the motherlode of bad ideas, but I saw this original video and I gotta say Affleck seems to be overreacting. A claim of racism has no bearing on anything discussed.Crazy Eight wrote:Yeah, if you forget that Sam Harris was right.
and that's my remotely thoughtul post for the week, good night folks
To me, Bill Maher is the epitome of orientalism. The same tired western cliches about the Muslim world. Oh, it’s the religion, forget democracy, justice, freedom of speech, secularism, socialism, communism, the economy – what they want is to restore the Umayyad Dynasty.
Oh, and how quick Westerners are to forget their own history. The Arab world, Iran, Pakistan, etc were all ready to jump on secular democracy bandwagon early in the 20th century. That was the “cool” thing to do during the period. The Young Turks just came out of the Caliphate itself. Catholicism never abolished the Vatican in a process of secularization, but the Muslims did do that. Why? Because Islam was on route to develop into something that was capable of embracing secularism, in order for secularism to be accepted it needs to grow within religion, society, and culture and most importantly religion needs to accommodate the secular ideas. So the real question should be why did the Muslim world veer so sharply off this track?
What is the root of the problem? Religion. It creates judgment and in many instances throughout history, violence. We see the judgment in the United States (evangelicals pushing for legislation that bans gay marriage, because it contradicts their religious belief system & violence, predominantly in today's culture, with the Muslim community).
Nah.Crazy Eight wrote:Yeah, if you forget that Sam Harris was right.
This is a very superficial diagnosis. The Muslim world, like any other culture on this giant rock, has various things causing it problems and, some are internal .... some are external. There is no single answer to what is wrong with the Muslim world today. It's numerous of things, mostly a lack of education, colonialism, political interfering, sectarianism, tribalism, croneyism, neotism. These are cultural problems that exist now and would exist regardless of religion.Skyab23 wrote:What is the root of the problem? Religion. It creates judgment and in many instances throughout history, violence. We see the judgment in the United States (evangelicals pushing for legislation that bans gay marriage, because it contradicts their religious belief system & violence, predominantly in today's culture, with the Muslim community).
Skyab23 wrote:What is the root of the problem? Religion.
After what took place ,in Paris Bill Maher has been vindicated .Crazy Eight wrote:RIFA he makes it fairly clear, by literally saying, that he's talking about Muslims. Not all religions ever generally.
Teaching at a Catholic school is awkward when you are not religious at all. I think the kids can smell it on me.
Are you required to teach religion? If you are, that makes little to no sense.
