Cilogy wrote:Vader182 wrote:Actually, universities are private property. Technically, they could have harmed them significantly more if they tried pushing or dragging them out of the way, and that has graver legal ramifications than pepper spraying someone. They broke the law, then egged on police officers trying to trap them, what did they think would happen after being asked repeatedly to leave and obstructing them?
Look at photos of this thing at UC Davis, it looks like we're in a fucking police state. The cops were in zero danger and the students posed no threat. Just because the police warned the students they would spray them doesn't justify it. I can warn you that I'll shoot you in the face with gun, you can disobey, and I'll shoot, but that does not make it okay. Though I agree that the police are not the only ones at fault here (the students did disobey to some degree, that's the point of resisting/protesting) you make it sound as if we should lay more blame on the students or both sides are equally wrong. What I find hilarious is that the cops were very comfortable stepping over the students to pepper spray them point blank in the face, but oh, they were "blocked and had no other option".
Look at as many photo's as you want, but video's don't lie. The protesters literally did threaten the police (they surrounded them and started chanting to let the arrested protesters go...). The police handled the situation properly. They gave them clear and specific warnings numerous times and the protesters disobeyed. Police don't joke around; when they warn you, listen. When they say they'll use force if you're uncooperative, they will. The police never used any sort of force until they felt as though it was necessary.